criteria to let a player belong to the database ?

  • I am surprised by the inclusion (or not) of some players in the database.
    I know that first of all, you include players who where called up for at least for one WC2006 qualifyer. But what about the others ?

    For example, France national team includes Olivier Echouafni (who should be thrown out, otherwise he would be included here : http://www.fff.fr/servfff/histor…herche_joueur=e) but not greats such as Marcel Desailly, Laurent Blanc, Didier Deschamps or Emmanuel Petit...
    Also not included are stars like Gabriel Batistuta, Davor Suker, Peter Schmeichel, George Weah, Ivan Zamorano, Claudio Taffarel, Gheorghe Hagi... I know that they're old and retired but as the database also includes some retired anonymous players... why not ?

  • Echouafni seems to be a mistake - really can't explain why he was in there.

    The criteria are simple - the main thing I do is try to keep up with all the new players called up to their national teams. And whenever I have time for more, I add some retired players from the 90s. I usually go through older league archives, but there is no real system or preference. So the answer to your "why" is basically: I don't do well-known players before unknown players, so I just players as they come along.

    I also do requests (as long as the players are from the 90s), and if someone sends me complete lists of game statistics for a national team, I will probably put it up pretty fast, as I like to see things complete (like the Australia section). Actually, every info I'm given is usually up on the site in a week.

    Cursing at sudanese football line-ups since 2004.

  • So I can make a list of players to add in priority (considering their high number of caps, their pretty recent date of retirement) whose club carrers are well informed in the SoccerAssociation Website (as you are a SA member). Let's do it little by little...


    ------------------------ With no transition, the transfers section ----------------------------
    In addition to Joetex Asamoah Frimpong, Saudian club Al-Nassr welcomes Saudian great Talal Al-Meshal.
    Iranian Farhan Majidi didn't play for Esteghlal Ahvaz in 2005-2006 but for Al-Wasl (UAE) and then Al-Ahli (still UAE, since February).
    Ghanaian Prince Tagoe does not play for FSV Mainz this season but for Saudi Arabia's Al-Ittihad (since January)
    (Source : http://www.goalzz.com/main.aspx?showtransfer=0)
    --------------------------- end of the transfers section -------------------------------

  • Yes, you can do that and I will add the players. Or I could just give you access to the database, then you could change and add things as you'd like to. Would that be cool for you, or do you prefer me adding the stuff?

    Cursing at sudanese football line-ups since 2004.

  • I would be interested to have access to the database if it's not difficult to use and if it avoids you too long update work.
    The problem is that I'm not a computing expert and that I can't register my profile ("the confirmation code is wrong"). If these are absolutely necessary conditions to use the database, I'lle be compelled to let you add the stuff...

  • The admin section is very easy to use, the only problem about it being that it is still in german. Shouldn't be too much of a problem, though, it's an archive, you don't really need to understand the language.

    I'll talk about it with my designer and programmer, and we'll try to give you access in a week or so, if that is okay for you. My designer just tells me that she could fix the language thing.

    Until then, just give me any information you want to have updated.

    Cursing at sudanese football line-ups since 2004.

  • Ich kenne nur wenige Wörter auf Deutsch (Mannschaft, Tor, Spieler... reicht es aus ?), doch kann ich probieren, die Appli (?) zu nützen.

    Damn, I still cannot register ("confirmation code is incorrect")...

  • This is the list of European players I wanted to add. As a general rule these are players with more than 50 caps who still played after 2000... I added extra players whom I regarded as important.
    It's not necessary to update everything the same day.
    The players'club carrier can be found @ SoccerAssociation. I noticed if the player became a manager (which is not the same SA category). In brackets, you have the players were active for their national team.


    ALBANIA
    Vata, Rudi (1990-2001)
    Xhumba, Arjan (1994-2002)

    ARMENIA
    Sukiasyan, Yervand (1994-2001)

    AZERBAIDJAN
    Lychkin, Vyacheslav (1995-2001)

    BELARUS
    Yakhimovich, Erik (1993-2001)

    BELGIUM
    Staelens, Lorenzo (1990-2000) - now a manager - midfield
    Nilis, Luc (1988-2000)

    BULGARIA
    Balakov, Krasimir (1988-2003) - now a manager - midfield
    Stoichkov, Hristo (1986-1999) - now a manager - attack
    Yankov, Zlatko (1989-1999)
    Penev, Ljuboslav (1987-1998)
    Kostadinov, Emil (1988-1998) http://www.omda.bg/engl/football/team.htm#emo
    Ivanov, Trifon (1988-1998) http://www.omda.bg/engl/football/team.htm#trifon
    Iordanov, Ivailo (1991-2000)

    CROATIA
    Jarni, Robert (1990-2002)
    Suker, Davor (1990-2002)
    Ladic, Drazen (1990-1999)
    Boban, Zvonimir (1990-1999)
    Prosinecki, Robert (1993-2002)
    Bilic, Slaven (1990-1999) - now a manager - midfield
    Boksic, Alen (1993-2002)

    CYPRUS
    Charalambous, Marios (1991-2002) played for Apollon before 1998-1999, as well as Pambos Pittas
    Ioannou, Dimitris (1991-2001)

    CZECH REPUBLIC
    Nemec, Jiri (1990-2001)
    Suchoparek, Jan (1991-2000)

    DENMARK
    Schmeichel, Peter (1987-2001)
    Heintze, Jan (1987-2002)
    Rieper, Marc (1990-2000) - now a manager - defence
    Hogh, Jes (1991-2000)

    ENGLAND
    Seaman, David (1988-2002)
    Adams, Tony (1987-2000) - now a manager - defence
    Gascoigne, Paul (1988-1998)
    Batty, David (1991-2002)

    ESTONIA
    Kirs, Urmas (1991-2000)

    FAROE ISLANDS
    Morkore, Allan (1990-2001)
    Hansen Össur (1992-2002)

    FINLAND
    Ylönen, Harri (1995-2002)

    FRANCE
    Desailly, Marcel (1993-2004)
    Deschamps, Didier (1989-2000) - now a manager - midfield
    Blanc, Laurent (1989-2000)
    Petit, Emmanuel (1990-2003)
    Dugarry, Christophe (1994-2002)
    Leboeuf, Franck (1995-2002)
    Lama, Bernard (1993-2000)

    FYR MACEDONIA
    Micevski, Toni (1993-2002)

    GEORGIA
    Arveladze, Archil (1994-2002)

    GERMANY
    Matthäus, Lothar (1980-2000) - now a manager - midfield
    Möller, Andreas (1988-1999)
    Bierhoff, Oliver (1996-2002)
    Helmer, Thomas (1990-1998)
    Köpke, Andreas (1990-1998)
    Kirsten, Ulf (1992-2000)

    GREECE
    Kalitzakis, Iannis (1987-1999)
    Ouzonidis, Marinos (1995-2001)

    ICELAND
    Bergsson, Gudni (1984-2003)
    Sverrisson Eyjölfur (1990-2001)

    IRELAND
    Quinn, Niall (1986-2002)
    Cascarino, Tony (1986-2000)
    Irwin, Denis (1991-2000)
    Babb, Phil (1994-2002)

    ISRAEL
    Shelah, Amir (1992-2001)
    Hazan, Alon (1990-2000)
    Harazi, Ronen (1992-1999)

    ITALY
    Baggio, Roberto (1988-2004)

    LATVIA
    Ivanovs, Valerijs (1992-2001)

    MALTA
    Busuttil, Carmel (1982-2001) http://goalscorers.narod.ru/00967.htm
    Brincat, Joe (1988-2004)

    MOLDOVA
    Curtianu, Alexandru (1994-2001)

    NETHERLANDS
    Winter, Aron (1987-2000)
    Jonk, Wim (1992-1999)
    Numan, Artur (1992-2002)

    NORTHERN IRELAND
    Dowie, Iain (1990-2000) - now a manager - midfield

    NORWAY
    Rekdal, Kjetil (1987-2000)
    Mykland, Erik (1990-2000)
    Bjornebye, Stig Inge (1989-2000)
    Halle, Gunnar (1987-1999)
    Solbakken, Stale (1994-2000) - now a manager - midfield
    Flo, Jostein (1987-2000)
    Grodas, Frode (1991-2002) - now a manager - goal
    Bohinen, Lars (1989-1999)

    PORTUGAL
    Paulo (Manuel) Sousa (1991-2002)

    ROMANIA
    Hagi, Gheorghe (1983-2000) - now a manager - midfield
    Popescu, Gheorghe (1988-2003)
    Petrescu, Dan (1989-2000) - now a manager - midfield
    Lupescu, Ioan (1988-2000) - now a manager
    Sabau, Ioan Ovidiu (1988-2001) - now a manager - midfield
    Raducioiu, Florin (1992-2000)

    RUSSIA
    Nikiforov, Yuri (1993-2002)
    Khlestov, Dmitri (1992-2002)

    SCOTLAND
    Boyd, Tom (1991-2001)
    McCoist, Ally (1986-1998)
    Collins, John (1988-2000)
    McAllister, Gary (1990-1999)
    Gallacher, Kevin (1988-2001)
    Hendry, Collin (1993-2001) - now a manager - defence
    Burley, Craig (1995-2003)

    SERBIA & MONTENEGRO
    Mijatovic, Predrag (1990-2003)
    Jokanovic, Slavisa (1991-2002)
    Djorovic, Goran (1994-2001)
    Djukic, Miroslav (1991-2001)
    Drulovic, Ljubinko (1997-2001)

    SWEDEN
    Andersson, Kennet (1990-2000)
    Schwarz, Stefan (1989-2001)
    Dahlin, Martin (1991-2000)
    Kamark, Pontus (1991-2002)

    SWITZERLAND
    Türkyilmaz, Kubilay (1988-2001)
    Pascolo, Marco (1992-2001)

    TURKEY
    Mandirali, Hami (1987-1999)

    UKRAINE
    Skrypnyk, Viktor (1994-2003)

    WALES
    Saunders, Dean (1986-2001) - now a manager - attack
    Hughes, Mark (1984-1999) - now a manager - attack

  • ARGENTINA
    Batistuta, Gabriel (1991-2002)

    BOLIVIA
    Rimba, Miguel (1989-2000) http://www.bolivia.com/noticias/auton…oticia15380.asp

    BRAZIL
    Taffarel, Claudio (1987-1998)
    Aldair (1989-2000)
    Leonardo (Nascimiento) (1990-2001)
    Cesar Sampaio (1990-2000)

    CHILE
    Zamorano, Ivan (1987-2001)
    Margas, Javier (1990-2000)

    COLOMBIA
    Valderrama, Carlos (1985-1998)
    Alvarez, Leonel (1985-1997) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonel_Alvarez
    Higuita, Jose Rene (1987-1999) http://www.lopaisa.com/renehiguita.html

    ECUADOR
    Capurro, Luis (1985-2003)

    PARAGUAY
    Struway, Estanislao (1991-2002)
    Benitez, Miguel Angel (1996-1999)

    PERU
    Del Solar, Jose (1986-2001)

    URUGUAY
    Magallanes, Federico (1995-2002)

    VENEZUELA
    Savarese, Giovanni (1989-2001)

  • BARBADOS
    Gilkes, Michael (2000-2001)

    CANADA
    Forrest, Craig (1988-2001)

    COSTA RICA
    Myers, Roy (1990-2000) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Myers

    EL SALVADOR
    Cienfuegos, Mauricio (1988-2003)
    Diaz Arce, Raul (1991-2000) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%BAl_D%C3%ADaz_Arce

    MEXICO
    Campos, Jorge (1991-2003)
    Hernandez, Luis (1995-2002)
    Garcia Aspe, Alberto (1988-2002) http://www.senorgol.nu/mexseleccion/garciaaspe.htm

    TRINIDAD & TOBAGO
    Elcock, Ansil (1994-2004) http://www.socawarriors.net/ansil_elcock.htm

    USA
    Balboa, Marcelo (1988-2000)
    Wynalda, Eric (1990-2000)
    Moore, Joe-Max (1992-2002)
    Harkes, John (1987-2000)
    Dooley, Thomas (1992-1999) - now a manager - midfield
    Ramos, Tab (1988-2000)
    Lalas, Alexi (1990-1998)
    Burns, Mike (1992-1998)

  • Quote from archivist

    Ich kenne nur wenige Wörter auf Deutsch (Mannschaft, Tor, Spieler... reicht es aus ?), doch kann ich probieren, die Appli (?) zu nützen.

    Damn, I still cannot register ("confirmation code is incorrect")...

    Your german knowledge would probably suffice, but my designer will translate the admin section into english. We wanted to do that anyway.

    I will also tell her that there are registration problems - there shouldn't be any.

    Cursing at sudanese football line-ups since 2004.

  • Your list is good, but we'll do as many players of the 90s as possible over the next months. You can see I already added all south african players yesterday.

    Cursing at sudanese football line-ups since 2004.

  • Quote

    Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:32 am Post subject:

    Your list is good, but we'll do as many players of the 90s as possible over the next months. You can see I already added all south african players yesterday.

    Here's a page to fill some blanks concerning South-African players (date of birth, position) : http://www.safa.net/players/index.asp?teamid=1

    I'ill publish soon my selection for Asia and Africa. Doesn't matter if the update comes later.

  • ALGERIA
    Tasfaout, Abdelhafid (1990-2002)
    Saib, Moussa (1989-2000) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussa_Sa%C3%AFb
    Meçabih, Ali (1995-2001) http://www.dzfoot.com/effectifs/joue…78&saison_id=10

    ANGOLA
    Quinzinho (1995-2001)
    Paulao (1989-2001)

    BENIN
    Amadou, Moudachirou (1996-2003)

    BURKINA FASO
    Barro, Oumar (1996-2002)

    BURUNDI
    Opango, David Ramadhani (1999-2003)

    CAMEROON
    Songo’o, Jacques (1984-2002)
    Ndo, Joseph (1998-2002) http://www.transfermarkt.de/index.html?anz…pieler_id=24595
    Omam Biyik, François (1988-1998) http://www.sitercl.com/Fichejo/O/omambiyf.htm
    Foe, Marc-Vivien (1993-2003)

    CHAD
    N’doram, Japhet (1990-1997) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japhet_N%27Doram

    COTE D’IVOIRE
    Gouamene, Alain (1990-2000)
    Abouo, Dominique Sam (1992-2000)
    Sie, Donald-Olivier (1990-2000)
    Ouattara, Ahmed (1993-1998)

    DR CONGO
    Ngonge, Felix-Michel (1996-2000)
    Ngole, André Kona (1991-1998)
    Mayele, Jason Nono (2000-2002)

    EGYPT
    Hassan, Ibrahim (1988-2002) http://www.angelfire.com/ak/EgyptianSports/results.html
    Sabry, Abdelsatar (1996-2001)
    Emara, Mohamed (1995-2002) http://www.angelfire.com/ak/EgyptianSpo…hamedEmara.html
    Radwan, Yasser (1995-2002) http://www.angelfire.com/ak/EgyptianSpo…ayerEgypt3.html - Yasser Radwan
    Youssef, Mohamed (1993-2000) http://www.angelfire.com/ak/EgyptianSpo…#MohamedYoussef

    GABON
    Amegasse, François (1984-2000) http://akebefoot.free.fr/pantheres/Gabon_2000.htm
    Ogandaga, Jonas (1993-2001)

    GHANA
    Pelé Ayew, Abedi (1982-1998) http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/…p-up.php?ID=227
    Yeboah, Tony (1985-1997) http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/…op-up.php?ID=96
    Kuffour, Emmanuel Osei (1998-2002) http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/…p-up.php?ID=105
    Addo, Joe (1990-2000)
    Lamptey, Nil Odartey (1991-1996)

    GUINEA
    Oulare, Souleymane (1992-2004)

    LIBERIA
    Weah, George (1985-2002)
    Nagbe, Joe (1985-2001) http://www.liberiansoccer.com/pLAYERSPAGES/joe_nagbe.htm

    MALAWI
    Mtawalli, Ernest (1983-2001)

    MALI
    Coulibaly, Fernand (1993-2000)

    MOROCCO
    Nader, Hassan (1987-2001) http://www.transfermarkt.de/index.html?anz…pieler_id=17468
    Bassir, Salahedine (1994-2002) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaheddine_Bassir
    Hadda Kamatcho, Abdeljilil (1996-2002)
    Chiba, Said (1995-2001)
    El Khalej, Tahar (1991-2001)
    Abrami, Lahcen (1991-2000)
    El Hadrioui, Abdelkrim (1993-2000)
    Azzouzi, Rachid (1993-1998)
    Neqrouz, Rachid (1994-2000)

    MOZAMBIQUE
    Chiquinho Conde (1985-2001)

    NIGER
    Yahaya, Moussa (1992-2000) http://www.90minut.pl/kariera.php?id=2464

    NIGERIA
    Adepoju, Mutiu (1990-2002) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiu_Adepoju
    Amokachi, Daniel (1990-1998) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Amokachi
    Amuneke, Emmanuel (1993-2001) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Amokachi
    Babangida, Tijani (1994-2002) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijjani_Babangida
    Eguavoen, Augustine (1986-1998) http://www.nigerianplayers.com/player.asp?pID=185
    Yekini, Rashidi (1984-1998) http://www.nigerianplayers.com/player.asp?pID=185
    Akpoborie, Johnathan (1992-2001) http://www.nigerianplayers.com/player.asp?pID=183
    George, Finidi (1991-2002) http://www.nigerianplayers.com/player.asp?pID=219
    Iroha, Ben (1990-1998) http://www.nigerianplayers.com/player.asp?pID=242
    Okafor, Uche (1990-1998) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uche_Okafor
    Rufai, Peter (1983-1998) http://www.nigerianplayers.com/player.asp?pID=175
    Siasia, Samson (1984-1998) http://www.nigerianplayers.com/player.asp?pID=125

    SENEGAL
    Diallo, Mamadou (1989-1998)

    TOGO
    Fiawoo, Koffi (1991-2000)
    Salou, Bachirou (1992-2000)

    TUNISIA
    Baya, Zoubaier (1994-2002)
    El Ouaer, Chokri (1993-2002) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokri_El_Ouaer
    Sellimi, Adel (1993-2002) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adel_Sellimi
    Bouzayene, Raouf (1992-2002)
    Thabet, Tarek (1992-2002)
    Boukadida, Mounir (1993-2002)
    Rouissi, Faouzi (1990-2001) http://www.transfermarkt.de/index.html?anz…ils.php4?nr=753
    Gabsi, Hassen (1997-2002)
    Ben Slimane, Mehdi (1996-2001) http://www.transfermarkt.de/index.html?anz…ils.php4?nr=753

    UGANDA
    Mbabazi, Livingstone Charles (1999-2003) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Livingstone_Mbabazi

    ZAMBIA
    Litana, Elijah (1993-2000) played for Al-Hilal (KSA) from 1995-1996 to 1999-2000

    ZIMBABWE
    Takawira, Vitalis (1992-2000) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalis_Takawira
    Chihuri, Kennedy (1994-2003)
    Grobbelaar, Bruce (1988-1997) - now a manager - goal

  • CHINA
    Fan, Zhiyi (1992-2002) http://2002.fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/02/en/t/t/pl/154568/index.html
    Mingyu, Ma (1996-2002) http://2002.fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/02/en/t/t/pl/154580/index.html
    Jiang, Jin (1992-2002) http://2002.fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/02/en/t/t/pl/154574/index.html

    INDIA
    Vijayan, Invalappil Mani (1991-2003) http://www.indianfootball.com/index1.html “hall of fame”
    Coutinho, Bruno (1991-2001) http://www.indianfootball.com/index1.html “hall of fame”

    IRAN
    Mansourian, Ali Reza (1996-1998) http://www.transfermarkt.de/index.html?anz…ils.php4?nr=753
    Estili, Hamid Reza (1990-2000) http://www.teammelli.com/articles/goal_of_the_century.htm

    JAPAN
    Ihara, Masami (1988-1999)

    KUWAIT
    Al Huwaidi, Jassem Mohamed (1992-2002) http://www.goalzz.com/main.aspx?player=9736

    QATAR
    Al Enazi, Mohamed Salem (1996-2003)

    SAUDI ARABIA
    Al Khilaiwi, Mohamed (1990-2001) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Al-Khilaiwi

    SOUTH KOREA
    Hong, Myung-Bo (1990-2002)
    Hwang, Sun-Hong (1993-2002)
    Ha, Seok-Ju (1991-2001)

    TADJIKISTAN
    Avakov, Arsen (1992-1997)

  • archivist,
    you do an excellent work and it would be a nice idea,that you could actualize the database.. :up: :up: :up:

    By the way: Is that your passion,to look for national team players in the web??

  • Yes, I'm intersted in having access to the database, more to catch up than to bring permanent latest news, as it can help.

    And what I enjoy in this site is that it provides original information. Thousands of sites cover major European leagues. Some great sites focus on one country's league and national team. But this site is the only one which deals with all the national teams. That's why I prefere to see all the A-teams info concentrated in this site than to read dozen of separated sites.

  • I forgot to add in the "list" :

    Alves Zague, Luis (1988-2001) for Mexico
    Wreh, Christopher (1995-2003) for Liberia

  • Hi archivist - couldyou please send me your e-mail (again?), my designer translated the admin section, so you could take a look at it.