Posts by Benjamin

    Thanks for the confirmation.

    Kuwait v Vietnam 2009-05-31

    Slowly getting there with this one. I can at least give you a Kuwait team.

    Starters: 3 Mohammed Jarragh / 40 Shehab Kankone / 15 Abdullah Al-Buraiki / 14 Talal Al-Enezi / 5 Abdulah Msheleh / 7 Fahad Al-Enezi / 19 Hamad Aman / 11 Yousef Naser / 12 Adel Humoud. Number 6 and 17 I still can't get. Number 17 has the ball and hopefully named at 34:48. Number 6 is hopefully named at 36:34.

    Subs: 10 Khaled Matar for 7 Fahad Al-Enezi / 16 for 5 Abdullah Msheleh / 13 for 19 Hamad Aman / 8 Saleh Al-Hendi for 12 Adel Humoud. Numbers 16 and 13 are seen at 1:05:42. I don't know who they are.

    Anyone feels like they can help out with this one?

    There was a big scandal at the time concerning this and several other friendlies with alleged African national sides, Zimbabwe being one if I remember correctly. These matches were arranged for betting purposes without the sanction of the ruling African FAs and a number of players turning out were also not who they were purported to be. This match is definitely not a full international, either FIFA or non-FIFA. If it were to be recognised, then any of us could select 11 of our mates, call them England or Germany or whatever, and claim our games were full internationals.

    Okay, so should I delete this one? I am ready to do so, but I'd love some more opinions first.

    Indonesia v Liberia 2007-06-30

    Unfortunately it appears it wasn't the George Weah that played here but a different one. Confirmed by the Indonesian report here under the heading 'George Weah' which I've translated below:

    "Regarding the arrival of the Liberia Selection team, it is widely reported that former AC Milan star George Weah will also come and even play against Indonesia. Not to break the hearts of Milanisti across Indonesia, but once confirmed, the incoming George Weah is just a player who happens to have the same name as the legendary player. George Weah is a libero who plays at a Greek club."

    Does anybody know anything about this other George Weah?

    2024 Marianas Cup

    Northern Marianas vs Guam 6th april 2024 and 7th april 2024

    Same like last year 2023 the Marianas friendlies were played by youth teams. This year explicitely labelled as under-20 competition. I checked both squads and all players were under 20 years old. Not like back in 2022 when they both fielded quite inexperienced youth sides but had at least a few older guys on the field, a bit like an Olympic team which has also over-aged players. So, I understand we count te 2022 matches. Counting the 2024 (but not the 2023) matches seems a bit strange to me. But anyway, the guys who are following me here, know that I am open to list also doubtful/un-official matches (marking them as non-FIFA) and letting the users decide. Especially as Northern Marianas don't have much fixtures. Guam has posted match sheets on their fb page 6th april & 7th april. The Northern Marianas did post pic sets, but no line-ups. I could find their squad list and it was quite the squad of their 2023 Pacific Games participation minus the few older guys being older than 20 years. If you are serious here with counting the 2024 matches as senior internationals I could have a look at the NMI team pics as well, in the meanwhile I leave you the Guam team pics here:

    Okay, I will delete them.

    Yes, that was why I didn't add it. Really terrible.

    I am going to not count this one at all. It is beyond my "weird games" border.

    That's me told. My apologies to Herbert Gregg.

    Morocco v Zambia 2008-11-19

    One to look at here... It reports one less sub for Morocco but I'm not too concerned with that as multiple sources have different sub numbers. My concern is with the Zambia side as this reports 3 added subs, with Mbesuma, Kampamba and Nkausu as coming on off the bench instead of starting. It reports Elijah Tana, Jonas Sakuwaha and Clifford Mulenga as the starters instead, with Tana, Sakuwaha and Jonas Mulenga being the 3 added players subbed off.

    Source: footballdatabase

    Has anybody else an opinion on this one? Although I will mostly be adding the new games in the next days/weeks.

    I understand the wariness, some other 11v11 files on Mali I've rejected because it wasn't conclusive, such as Senegal 1-0 Mali 1996. Like the Ivory Coast game above, RSSSF has Bassala Toure down for that one but I can't justify the change because he isn't mentioned, unless he is the Ba Traore instead or 11th starter instead of the D Diakite currently attributed with it. The fact RSSSF has Bassala on 27 more caps than on here and the Ivory coast game is the only one I've found to potentially back them up shows how difficult it is to find stuff. Amadou played in the 1994 AFCON and scored in the 3rd place match so he was definitely around before 1997. But yes this may be a case of 11v11 choosing the better known player.

    Let's leave it for the moment. I would to have more african players for line-ups in the 80s and 90s, but I think we will have to wait until a new source comes around. There is always hope, we found people for old Malawi, Sudan and Mauritius stats, so you never know.

    Paraguay v Bolivia 1993-03-03

    Just want to bring this up as it has Roberto Acuna in the starting lineup... albeit a starting lineup with 12 starters which of course needs addressing. It's the same for Bolivia but you've addressed that with Modesto Molina coming on as a sub instead so my query is whether the Paraguay team needs action or not. It also has an extra substitution for Paraguay with Justo Javier Meza coming on and Virgilio Ferreira coming off. If you've already sorted this one out I apologise for bringing it up again.

    Source: 11v11

    I think there is general confusion on this one, and again I wouldn't trust 11v11 too much. I looked it up in the book by Gabriel Mantz, he is the most reliable source for south american internationals that I know. Not sure if he got that one right, though.

    China v Iran 1997-04-27

    By all means correct me here if it's wrong, but Team Melli (yes I know) has an added substitution here of Li Jinyu (who you have starting), coming on for Gao Hongbo at half time. They also have Hao Haidong starting who you have missing altogether. Might be putting two and two together to make 5 but I believe it's worth posting.

    Source: Team Melli

    Other sources are inconclusive, or even all over the place. Anyone here has an idea what may be right?