Starting by 0:37 we see the corner leading to that goal. It looks like the header is coming from Croes. As Donk wasn't showing any signs of joy, it seems like he didn't touch the ball. I also saw that some Suri sources like https://www.facebook.com/SVB19…4762882/2743727739272767/ credited the goal to Donk, and as a former (amateur youth) defender I also would like to credit goals to the attacking players, but just seeing the pics it is really hard to tell. Maybe we should just follow FIFA and the Suri sources and credit the goal to Donk, ignoring the video. Personally, I don't know. At the end it's the webmaster to decide.
Transfermarkt doesn't say anything about Bangkok CC Tero. Also, I searched for articles both in Thai and in English, and I couldn't find anything about him being sent to the reserves. All I could find is that he was ruled out for the 2015 season due to injury, and was sent on loan to Pattaya in 2016. Can you please send me articles about him playing in the reserves if you find them?
That is the article I mentioned.
according to transfermarkt he played for the Hamburger SV II (reserve team) in 02/03 AND 01/02. Your data about 02/03 are true, and should be added. But the data of 01/02 is still true. Remember that HSV II played 4th tier Oberliga in 01/02 before being promoted to 3rd tier Regionalliga for 02/03. Not all websites include Oberliga-stats, so you may have checked such a source omitting his Oberliga matches.
How sure are you on that one? When regoogling it, I just found an article that he missed the preparation and the first 5 matchdays because of injury. BEC Tero Sasana wanted to fill the foreigner spot, so they kicked him out of the squad as foreigner spots are very limited in Asia. What I read in the re-googled article was, that they planed to loan him to their farm team Bangkok CC Tero for the reminder of the season. That's all the article said. If I remember correctly, Soony Saad appeared in some games for Bangkok CC Tero later that year. But as it has been 5 years ago, I can remember wrongly as well.
The 19/20 season in Lebanon was completely cancelled. All players should have - - that season (not 3 1, or 1 0, for example).
See this article, which states that the league was cancelled "with all its effects".
Also LebanonFG, a Lebanese news + statistics website, doesn't display stats for the 2019/20 season as it was cancelled.
Regarding the article you linked, I understand by "all its effects" (="بكافة مفاعيله") that there will be no championship awarded, no relegation at all levels from 1st down to 5th, no continuation of league or cups, and that the played games won't count for nothing regarding the points obtained by the clubs. For me that doesn't affect the players statistic, as in fact the players played these 1st league games, and by that moment they were thought to be counted as such.
My understanding of the article is also confirmed by the website you linked. The stats for teams are cancelled (btw that is also why we don't have a league table for Lebanon in 19/20), but individual players stats are counted, for example Mehdi Khalil
In general, league stats are a great help to verify a player's club affiliation. Not only to show how many games a player played (indicating what his role at the club team was), but also to verify that a player indeed was at the club. In many countries without league stats, we never can be sure if a player was really at the club or just at trial. Was he injured or maybe just in the second team, or still in the youth team? So league stats are a good proof that a player really was part of the first team. Also zero stats 0/0 (0 games 0 goals) is an information to us, as it shows that we have all match reports, and that we know that the player didn't appear in any game. When we see ( - / - ) at national-football-teams it only tells that there is no data and that we don't have any idea about how many games a player played. As we know if and how many games the players played in Lebanese League, we should use this data, too. Just like we do it in all the other leagues worldwide which were equally annulled in 19/20. Some of them also without declaring a champion and some, like in Lebanon, even without relegation and/or promotion.
SiebenW, what do you think? I am willing to take it down.
No. I definitely prefer this game to stay. For me it has the same status like qualifier games which got annulled after a team forfeited after playing some matches. When it was played, players and people considered this to be an official match. And it got annuelled afterwards. Reasons might be different to these forfeits during qualifiers, but personally I would stick to it.
Another reason is that I always want to have every game played between two full senior national teams. Even if annulled this match is part of the history of these two countries. But maybe it is possible to make a footnote, like under "Events" there could be a last event like "annulled because of match fixing", to make it clear why it doesn't appear under FIFA matches.
2012-05-03 Iraq vs. Sierra Leone
We miss nearly everything on Sierra Leone (besides one yellow carded player Christian Caulker). Sadly, the video starts shotly into the match without announcing line-ups. The sub text seems to give sports news from other matches, like Iraqi club news at first place. So this one is a bit challenging to find out about the Sierra Leonean players.
Around 15:04 we see the Sierra Leone match sheet
Around 16:18 we see the Liberia match sheet
So, that's round two. So far we 4 subs for Liberia. Anyone who enjoys re-watching this game, can look out for possible cards, possible further Liberian substitutions and for Sierra Leonean substitutions.
*Stats for Abbas Assi here: https://int.soccerway.com/players/abbas--asi-/392387/.
I don't know his DoB, but globalsportsarchive says he's 25 (https://globalsportsarchive.co…soccer/abbas-assi/193920/)
**Change Mahmoud Sablini to Mahmoud Siblini
Nehme1499 Great find by yours, in fact also the Emirates listed Abbas Assi in the squad on their website and not Abbas Atwi. It was a very experimental squad with young players. For Abbas Assi it has been his only cap so far, without your help we would have missed him. Also great work on the 2009 Thailand game.
So, that's the first game. I saw that national-football-teams had been missing the entire Emirati infos. Thankfully, around 6' minutes in the tube the Emirate line-up was written on the screen. By skipping through the tube I saw some event graphics, like a yellow card for Zuhair Bakheet. Sadly, I couldn't see any clock running, so if we want to know minutes, we have to do the maths by ourselves starting from kick-off.
During the second half, we see a substitution at this point : Number 14 is going off and 22 is entering the game. Number 14 was by the starting line-up graphic Khamis Saad. By the new substitution graphic Number 22 is "Saeed Khamis", as in the system we don't have any player by this name, and this name looks really similar to the exchanged player, I am not sure if this graphic is correct.
I don't know if we have guys here who enjoy watching old tubes of historic matches to find out some missing substitutions or yellow cards. Personally, watching old games is definitely not my hobby. Here I must admit that my auditory understanding in any foreign language is really poor. But maybe we have guys here who are really enjoying watching historic games finding out some missing details which would get lost otherwise.
This one seems to be very unofficial for Saudi Arabia. ksa-stats does not have it, neither does globalsportsarchive. Not sure what kind of team Saudi Arabia used for that game.
The Saudi team that played Latvia (in Portugal) was exactly the same squad which played hosts Portugal three days later, and another three days later Bulgaria (again in Portugal). No team had more than 6 subs, so I don't know why this game shouldn't be considered a FIFA-match. I haven't found the ksa-stats list, and even globalsportsarchive can miss a game. I googled for some match articles in Arabic and English and all hits sounded to me like a regular friendly.
that's why I added Footballdatabase.
For the international matches of 1997 difficult to have better than 11vs11 right?
And (most of) the Zambian goalscorers currently listed on national-football-teams, are not listed in the national-football-teams line-ups or substitutions in the concerned matches. So having scored without playing is even less reliable.
Gabriel González and Juan Vélez played for Puerto Rico, not Noah Delgado and Andrés Pérez (both were on the bench)
Gabriel González does not exist yet, born December 30, 1986
NO! That's incredible bullshit.
Gabriel González was the reserve goalkeeper on the bench. Terry Boss was the starting keeper. Noah Delgado was the team captain for that match, of course he and Andrés Pérez were starters.
soccerscout please have in mind that FIFA match reports have many mistakes, so don't waste your time comparing them with national-football-teams reports. national-football-teams has much less mistakes than FIFA.
28/08/19 Oman 1 Yemen 0 Al Seeb Abdulla AL MARRI (Qatar)
OMAN Faiz AL RASHIDI, Ali AL BUSAIDI, Mohamed AL MUSALLAMI, Amran AL HAIDI, Saad SUHAIL, Al Munther AL ALAWI (Raed IBRAHIM 46), Yassin AL SHEAYADI (Ahmed MUBARAK), Harib AL SAADI, Mohsen JAWHAR (Mohamed MUBARAK), Salah AL YAHYAI, Aziz AL MUQBALI
Goal: A. Mubarak 88
YEMEN Salem AL HARH (Salem AWAD 46), Mohamed BUGSHAN (Ahmed AL KHAMRI 46), Mohamed FOUAD (Mohamed BAROIES 61), Mudir AL RADAEI, Mohamed Jamal AL MADARI, Mufid JAMAL, Ahmed Mahir JAMAL (Manaf SAAED 46), Ali ABDULLA (Abdulwasea AL MATEA 61), Omar AL DAHI, Mohsin QARAWI, Emad MANSOUR
There are five other names for Oman subs, but I can't guarantee whether they came on or not. On the Yemen side, the question mark is whether Ahmed Mahir Jamal or Manaf Saeed started. The team photo shows No.12 as starting, which is normally Jamal's number.
On the team photo I can see clearly Ahmed Maher. So you were correct listing him as starter.
In friendly Cameroon-Zambia there are some mistakes in Cameroon substitutions according different sources
Very good observation, majope
Not really mistakes (besides the time of substitution can differ some minutes), it's just that from six substitutions we have only 2 listed on national-football-teams. Though we have listed Joël Tagueu for giving the assist, but not yet he is listed as substitution in. Besides him also Jacques Zoua, Ambroise Oyongo and Pierre Ramses Akono came in as subs, according to local source:
Wie ihr darauf kommt, dass Naeem Rahimi im Spiel am 25. Dezember eingewechselt wurde, erschließt sich mir nicht, da es nach meiner Recherche weder Video- noch Bildmaterial von dem Spiel gibt.
Ich tippe mal der Dateneinpfleger hat das Spiel vom 28.Dezember mit dem vom 25.Dezember verwechselt, und Naeem Rahimi für das falsche Spiel als Einwechselspieler festgelegt. Leider scheint diese Verwechselung gleich in doppelter Hinsicht passiert zu sein, da
die von Ajub angesprochene Verbesserung von Zubayr Amiri anstatt Zohib Islam Amiri für das Spiel am 25.Dezember eingepflegt wurde, und nicht für das am 28.Dezember. Am 25.Dezember war aber Islam Amiri in der Startelf: Startelf 25.Dezember
Fassen wir also mal zusammen was getan werden muss um die gefundenen Fehler zu berichtigen:
2018-12-25 Afghanistan vs. Turkmenistan
es spielte in der Startelf Zohib Islam Amiri (und NICHT Zubayr Amiri)
2018-12-25 Afghanistan vs. TurkmenistanNaeem Rahimi wurde NICHT eingewechselt
2018-12-28 Afghanistan vs. Turkmenistan
es spielte in der Startelf Zubayr Amiri (und NICHT Zohib Islam Amiri)
2018-12-28 Afghanistan vs. TurkmenistanZohib Islam Amiri wurde eingewechselt
2018-12-28 Afghanistan vs. TurkmenistanNaeem Rahimi wurde eingewechselt
2018-12-28 Afghanistan vs. TurkmenistanJabar Sharza wurde eingewechselt
2018-08-19 Afghanistan vs. Palästina
Fardin Hakimi eingewechselt für Adam Najem (NICHT Adam Najem für Adam Najem)
Vom Spiel Afghanistan gegen Turkmenistan, meine ich einige Bilder gesehen zu haben. Wenn ich mich richtig erinnere war es eine turkmenische Seite in den sozialen Netzwerken. Die Turkmenen hatten das erste Spiel in grünen Trikots gespielt. Das zweite Spiel war in weißen Trikots. Leider erinnere ich mich nicht an die Seite und kann diese auch nicht wiederfinden. Auf der fb-Seite des turkmenischen Teams habe ich leider auch nur einen screenshot vom Spiel gefunden,
, der aber zumindest die grünen Trikots belegt.