Posts by SiebenW

    This one seems to be very unofficial for Saudi Arabia. ksa-stats does not have it, neither does globalsportsarchive. Not sure what kind of team Saudi Arabia used for that game.

    The Saudi team that played Latvia (in Portugal) was exactly the same squad which played hosts Portugal three days later, and another three days later Bulgaria (again in Portugal). No team had more than 6 subs, so I don't know why this game shouldn't be considered a FIFA-match. I haven't found the ksa-stats list, and even globalsportsarchive can miss a game. I googled for some match articles in Arabic and English and all hits sounded to me like a regular friendly.

    that's why I added Footballdatabase.

    For the international matches of 1997 difficult to have better than 11vs11 right?

    And (most of) the Zambian goalscorers currently listed on national-football-teams, are not listed in the national-football-teams line-ups or substitutions in the concerned matches. So having scored without playing is even less reliable.

    NO! That's incredible bullshit.

    Gabriel González was the reserve goalkeeper on the bench. Terry Boss was the starting keeper. Noah Delgado was the team captain for that match, of course he and Andrés Pérez were starters.

    soccerscout please have in mind that FIFA match reports have many mistakes, so don't waste your time comparing them with national-football-teams reports. national-football-teams has much less mistakes than FIFA.

    On the team photo I can see clearly Ahmed Maher. So you were correct listing him as starter.

    Very good observation, majope

    Not really mistakes (besides the time of substitution can differ some minutes), it's just that from six substitutions we have only 2 listed on national-football-teams. Though we have listed Joël Tagueu for giving the assist, but not yet he is listed as substitution in. Besides him also Jacques Zoua, Ambroise Oyongo and Pierre Ramses Akono came in as subs, according to local source:
    http://allezleslions.net/prepa…st-reussi-pour-les-lions/

    ajub  Benjamin

    Wie ihr darauf kommt, dass Naeem Rahimi im Spiel am 25. Dezember eingewechselt wurde, erschließt sich mir nicht, da es nach meiner Recherche weder Video- noch Bildmaterial von dem Spiel gibt.

    Ich tippe mal der Dateneinpfleger hat das Spiel vom 28.Dezember mit dem vom 25.Dezember verwechselt, und Naeem Rahimi für das falsche Spiel als Einwechselspieler festgelegt. Leider scheint diese Verwechselung gleich in doppelter Hinsicht passiert zu sein, da
    die von Ajub angesprochene Verbesserung von Zubayr Amiri anstatt Zohib Islam Amiri für das Spiel am 25.Dezember eingepflegt wurde, und nicht für das am 28.Dezember. Am 25.Dezember war aber Islam Amiri in der Startelf: Startelf 25.Dezember

    Fassen wir also mal zusammen was getan werden muss um die gefundenen Fehler zu berichtigen:
    1.)
    https://www.national-football-…anistan_Turkmenistan.html
    2018-12-25 Afghanistan vs. Turkmenistan
    es spielte in der Startelf Zohib Islam Amiri (und NICHT Zubayr Amiri)
    2.)
    https://www.national-football-…anistan_Turkmenistan.html

    2018-12-25 Afghanistan vs. TurkmenistanNaeem Rahimi wurde NICHT eingewechselt

    3.)

    https://www.national-football-…menistan_Afghanistan.html

    2018-12-28 Afghanistan vs. Turkmenistan

    es spielte in der Startelf Zubayr Amiri (und NICHT Zohib Islam Amiri)

    4.)

    https://www.national-football-…menistan_Afghanistan.html

    2018-12-28 Afghanistan vs. TurkmenistanZohib Islam Amiri wurde eingewechselt

    5.)

    https://www.national-football-…menistan_Afghanistan.html

    2018-12-28 Afghanistan vs. TurkmenistanNaeem Rahimi wurde eingewechselt

    6.)

    https://www.national-football-…menistan_Afghanistan.html

    2018-12-28 Afghanistan vs. TurkmenistanJabar Sharza wurde eingewechselt

    7.)

    https://www.national-football-…fghanistan_Palestine.html

    2018-08-19 Afghanistan vs. Palästina

    Fardin Hakimi eingewechselt für Adam Najem (NICHT Adam Najem für Adam Najem)


    ajub

    Vom Spiel Afghanistan gegen Turkmenistan, meine ich einige Bilder gesehen zu haben. Wenn ich mich richtig erinnere war es eine turkmenische Seite in den sozialen Netzwerken. Die Turkmenen hatten das erste Spiel in grünen Trikots gespielt. Das zweite Spiel war in weißen Trikots. Leider erinnere ich mich nicht an die Seite und kann diese auch nicht wiederfinden. Auf der fb-Seite des turkmenischen Teams habe ich leider auch nur einen screenshot vom Spiel gefunden,

    hier

    , der aber zumindest die grünen Trikots belegt.

    I don't have Fardan Hakimi in the line-up, so there is probably a mistake here somewhere? Could well be us.

    90. Fardin Hakimi for Adam Najem (2:16:16)

    Adam Najem was the starter and Fardin Hakimi came in as a substitute. Like we can see in the video by picture and by text. If you can read arabic letters you can read the full substitution for both players. If you can read just latin letters you see at least Najem on the back of the outgoing player.

    ajub GOOD JOB. Here on national-football-teams we really miss guys watching games to get substitutions complete. You did a great job by giving us the time in the video, so we can have a see to doublecheck like in this case. Also congratulations for your work on the Turkmenistan friendlies.

    [quote='bakerrp','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49649#post49649'] ... I suppose we'll have to change the country name if the new constitution comes out, as the king has declared that it should now be called eSwatini. Unusual in that it starts with a lower case letter! ... [/quote] Not necessarily. The english "Swaziland" was the official name adopted into their local language (Swazi). Now, "they" (or to be more concrete the king) changed the official name to eSwatini, which fits to the Swazi language. But in the english language Swaziland stays Swaziland, and btw in german it is "Swasiland", with a slightly different spelling. The thing behind is that countries have different names in different languages, another example would be "Côte d'Ivoire", using officially the french version for their country name, but in english it remains "Ivory Coast", just like we have it here on national-football-teams. If this site would be run in Swazi language, I would agree that we have to change the name to "eSwatini", but as this site is driven in english I see no need to change the name. @bakerrp Just my point of view to the name's topic. Your work on the match report is great, like always.
    [quote='soccerscout','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49628#post49628'] Aren't these two actually the same player? http://national-football-teams.com/player/67936/Romain_Hauteville.html http://national-football-teams.com/player/70858/Ronan_Hauterville.html [/quote] Yes, they are the same player and the correct spelling by the LGF (Ligue Guadeloupéenne de Football) is RONAN HAUTERVILLE.
    ONE MORE MISTAKE regarding the Adama Traoré case. http://www.national-football-teams.com/matches/report/18136/Mali_Morocco.html 2017-09-05 MALI vs. Morocco The substitute was NOT http://www.national-football-teams.com/player/63744/Adama_Traore_2.html Adama Traoré (AS MONACO) was NOT in the starting eleven. His number is #19 Instead, the substitute was http://www.national-football-teams.com/player/52840/Adama_Traore.html Adama Traoré (TP Mazembe) His number is #14 First evidence is the number of the substitute which was #14. Second evidence is that only the TP Mazembe player was on the squad list [url]http://maliactu.net/mali-maroc-mali-du-1er-septembre-2017-une-equipe-rajeunie-des-aigles-pour-affronter-les-lions-de-latlas-a-casablanca/[/url]
    [quote='mikaelj','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49569#post49569'] Yesterdays game between what probably was Jordans under 23 team and Libyas chan team... Amman Jordan 1-1 Libya JOR:Mousa Al Tamari 52 LBY:Faisal Al Badri 75pen Venue:King Abdullah International Stadium Referee:Turki al Khudair KSA Booked:Saeed Murjan 83 JOR:12 Yazid Abu Laila- 18 Jonathan Tamimi,3 Tariq Khattab,5 Yazan Arab,21 Mohamed Al Dumieri (c)- 13 Mousa Al Tamari (16 Yazan Thalji 71),17 Rajai AMyed (23 Ehsan Haddad 65),6 Saeed Murjan,7 Yosef Al Rawadesh (10 Musab al Laham 83)- 14 Malik Abdul Hadi (8 Yosef Al Nabr 82)- 20 Hamza Aldarduor (9 Baha Faisal 77) Coach:Jamal Abu Abed LBY:1 Mohamed Nashnush (c)- 16 Ali Maetouq,15 Ahmed Al Trbi,8 Sanad Masoud Warfali,3 Motasem Sabbou- 18 Faisal Al Badri (14 Muhannad Mustafa Ito 85),6 Abdulmuen Khumaj,20 Shamik Faraj Obaidi (21 Abdelsalam Fitouri 58)- 7 Mohamed Tubal (10 Zakaria Al Harish 35),9 Mohamed Ghanoudi (23 Khaled Maryam Magdi 82),17 Mohamed Soula (11 Muftah Taktak 65) Not used:22 Ahmed Azzagah (GK),12 Fatih al Talhi (GK),5 Tariq al Gamal Coach:Omar Al Marimi [/quote] It's still listed on the FIFA site, so I hope we can see it on the national-team-football records as well. Together with the Bahrain-Kuwait friendly, these are the last two missing games for 2017.
    [quote='Benjamin','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49562#post49562'] [quote='PAULOM37','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49558#post49558'] http://www.national-football-teams.com/matches/report/18363/Mali_Ivory_Coast.html# Be careful it's a wrong Amara Traoré who plays, the true player who play in TP Mazembe. [/quote] I don't quite get what you are trying to tell me here. [/quote] What he wrote: 2017-10-06 MALI against IVORY COAST http://www.national-football-teams.com/player/63744/Adama_Traore_2.html Adama Traoré (AS MONACO) was NOT in the starting eleven. His number is #19 Instead, a STARTER was http://www.national-football-teams.com/player/52840/Adama_Traore.html Adama Traoré (TP Mazembe) His number is #14 PAULOM37 is correct. I have the team pics for all the Mali world cup qualifiers, and on them we can see clearly that Adama Traoré (TP Mazembe) was a starter against Ivory Coast. Btw, Adama Traoré (AS Monaco) was a starter in Gabon five days later, so you got that one correct.
    Great work! @bakerrp Here is the link to the CAF sit [url]http://admin.cafonline.com/en-us/competitions/chanqnorthzone/news.aspx/NewsDetails?id=SLA73tNWYwVZSRUc%2F15SUw%3D%3D[/url] From there you come to the docs of the 6 regions for CHAN qualifiers.
    [quote='bakerrp','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49481#post49481'] This is pretty much the same as I have at the moment. One bit of info, however. Pereira of Sao Tome is the same player as Maki, who was listed in the first game. I'm assuming that Paile, Tinho, Iniesta and Pajo are in the squad somewhere, but I haven't found anywhere that gives their real names. [/quote] Paile = Paulo Jorge Tavares De Sousa Pontes https://www.facebook.com/paile.dojoelho Pajo = Antonio Da Cruz Lopes https://www.facebook.com/pajo.lopes.7 Their fb pages make their nickname evidents. With Iniesta and Tinho I just could make an educated guess, I supose "Iniesta" to be Aderito Pires Da Mata and "Tinho" Jokceleny Fernandes Carvalho, but it could be easily the other way round.
    [quote='soccerscout'][quote='SiebenW'][quote='soccerscout']... In this game you have Carl Joseph as keeper, but Javid Joseph receiving a yellow card - could it be that in fact Javid Joseph played (or both are the same person)? http://national-football-teams.com/matches/report/2106/Antigua_And_Barbuda_Dominican_Republic.html http://national-football-teams.com/player/17876/Carl_Joseph.html http://national-football-teams.com/player/18148/Javid_Joseph.html[/quote] No, they are two persons. They look quite different and played for different clubs these days back in the game you mentioned. Carl Joseph is also older (born 6th february 1980). As we can see on the team pic Carl Joseph was the keeper in the starting line-up. So, it could only be that Javid Joseph received the yellow card being the reserve keeper on the bench.[/quote] But is there a possibility that the yellow card is wrong and in fact Carl Joseph received it?[/quote] Yes, there is such a possibility as well. But to be honest, I really don't know who has received this yellow card. The mentioning of the [b]CARL JOSEPH[/b] birthdate was alo a hint to [b][color=#BF0000]Benjamin[/color][/b] to add the [b]DOB: 6th february 1980[/b] to Carl Joseph's profile http://national-football-teams.com/player/17876/Carl_Joseph.html
    [quote='soccerscout']... In this game you have Carl Joseph as keeper, but Javid Joseph receiving a yellow card - could it be that in fact Javid Joseph played (or both are the same person)? http://national-football-teams.com/matches/report/2106/Antigua_And_Barbuda_Dominican_Republic.html http://national-football-teams.com/player/17876/Carl_Joseph.html http://national-football-teams.com/player/18148/Javid_Joseph.html[/quote] No, they are two persons. They look quite different and played for different clubs these days back in the game you mentioned. Carl Joseph is also older (born 6th february 1980). As we can see on the team pic Carl Joseph was the keeper in the starting line-up. So, it could only be that Javid Joseph received the yellow card being the reserve keeper on the bench.
    [quote='Benjamin'][quote='SiebenW']@ bakerrp Thanks to your reply. My main concern about the CHAN games is, that in this competition oversea-based players are not allowed, and for me a national team should be the best players without restriction. And it's an important difference if a team for example Zambia does without oversea-based players VOLUNTARY like in COSAFA cup, or if they do withouth oversea-based players by RESTRICTION. That's for me also the reason why Olympic games don't count as a-matches, while some FIFA friendlies can still count as a-match, allthough one side plays only with players under 23 years. Because they do it voluntary. You can also discuss that games outside the FIFA calender face the problem that oversea clubs can't be forced to send their players. But if the associations are negociating with the clubs it is still possible to field these oversea players. So, this doesn't mean a restriction to me. At the end, the most important fact is that you told it is a FIFA decission. If they officially decided to count all CHAN games as full international matches, than it's a fact. And that's the answer to my question. I never heard about this FIFA decision, I just see that they have listed the CHAN games on [url]http://de.fifa.com/worldfootball/results/index.html[/url], I didn't know if it was by decision or by mistake. In the past FIFA has listed games as official FIFA games, which you didn't insert to your database because one team made more than 6 substitutions. So, you decided that you name these games "non-FIFA games" although FIFA list them as FIFA games (example: ARMENIA-LITHUANIA 14/nov/12). So, I thought you could make an remark aswell, like "local A team". ANYWAY, it is very interesting to see the line-ups on the CHAN games and I want to congratulate you for your great work. I want to give you guys from national-football-teams one more possitive featback which has nothing to do with the CHAN games: Your league stats about Central American countries are amazing. For example, to me it's difficult to find the squads about the Liga Panameño de Fútbol, so it's great to see that you have league stats from Panama.[/quote] Hi SiebenW - your original question has pretty much been answered, hasn't it? We are pretty much acting according to FIFA's guidelines, even if they unfortunately make no sense at all. Some of the 7-substitutions-games are on the FIFA site, some are not, and you basically want to kick people. This is what I suspect happens. Shortly after the introduction of this stupid rule, England had a game where they substituted six times, then had an injury, then did a seventh substitution. So it should not haven been counted as a full FIFA match. However, the English FA appealed that decision, saying this was a special case with the injury, and FIFA relented and counted it. I expect a lot of this might be going on, yet we never hear of these other cases, because they are not about England or another of the big, important teams in world football. So this might be an explanation - or it might just as well be FIFA really not caring and just putting stuff on their website without actually looking at match reports. The central american leagues are so good because soccerassociaton.com and soccerway.com make such a good job providing these statistics. It really has nothing to do with us. ;)[/quote] Yes, my original question has been answered. My main concern, was that national-football-teams (my favourite website) loses credibility when they start counting local-squad matches as full matches, who no-one else does. In the past your page was often the first reverance for capps of certain players. No the countings differ. For example, you counted the 2 Denmark matches against USA and Canada as full internationals although it was a local squad. The Danish FA themselves count them only as Ligalandsholdet-team matches and not full matches, wikipedia don't count them. With the Chan games we will have much differences in the mentionend countries like Senegal, Côte d'Ivoire, etc. So, I just wanted to know if FIFA is knowing what they are doing when the post these matches on their calender, but obviously they are. And by your explanation, I can an even clearer view, why some games are counted some others not. To start a new topic: You have a general problem with players' clubs from players transfered from the july-june season to a calender year season. For example http://national-football-teams.com/player/7950/Ramon_Sanchez.html He played with Isidro Metapán in the apertura 2012 and started with Vostok for the 2013 season. After you put in his 12/13 stats the 12/13 season came above the 2013 (which he is currently playing). After now switching to the 13/14 year, the system created an automatic blanc for 13/14 season with Metapán, allthough he is still in Vostok. I have seen this problem ocuring with varios transfered players, so I guess it's a general thing.
    @ bakerrp Thanks to your reply. My main concern about the CHAN games is, that in this competition oversea-based players are not allowed, and for me a national team should be the best players without restriction. And it's an important difference if a team for example Zambia does without oversea-based players VOLUNTARY like in COSAFA cup, or if they do withouth oversea-based players by RESTRICTION. That's for me also the reason why Olympic games don't count as a-matches, while some FIFA friendlies can still count as a-match, allthough one side plays only with players under 23 years. Because they do it voluntary. You can also discuss that games outside the FIFA calender face the problem that oversea clubs can't be forced to send their players. But if the associations are negociating with the clubs it is still possible to field these oversea players. So, this doesn't mean a restriction to me. At the end, the most important fact is that you told it is a FIFA decission. If they officially decided to count all CHAN games as full international matches, than it's a fact. And that's the answer to my question. I never heard about this FIFA decision, I just see that they have listed the CHAN games on [url]http://de.fifa.com/worldfootball/results/index.html[/url], I didn't know if it was by decision or by mistake. In the past FIFA has listed games as official FIFA games, which you didn't insert to your database because one team made more than 6 substitutions. So, you decided that you name these games "non-FIFA games" although FIFA list them as FIFA games (example: ARMENIA-LITHUANIA 14/nov/12). So, I thought you could make an remark aswell, like "local A team". ANYWAY, it is very interesting to see the line-ups on the CHAN games and I want to congratulate you for your great work. I want to give you guys from national-football-teams one more possitive featback which has nothing to do with the CHAN games: Your league stats about Central American countries are amazing. For example, to me it's difficult to find the squads about the Liga Panameño de Fútbol, so it's great to see that you have league stats from Panama.
    What are you doing? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_African_Nations_Championship_qualification[/url] This is the qualification for the African Nations Championship. This competition is only for local squads. So, the african teams can only select players from their domestic league. They are not allowed to select their oversea players. This is the 3rd edition, but since july you enter the qualifiers as well as the preparation matches (friendlies) of these teams into your database like the full a-matches. Why do you do this, since this month?