Posts by Benjamin

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Saudi Arabia vs Malaysia 30 August 2009

This match is recognized as 'A' international match by FIFA. It is included in 2009 FIFA ranking calculation for both team.

Saudi Arabia Lineup:

1 Waleed Abdullah (Gk)

2 Abdullah Shuhail

4 Osama Hawsawi

6 Ahmed Ateef

8 Mohammed Noor

11 Naif Hazazi

12 Hassan Muath

13 Hussein Al Sulaimani (C)

14 Saud Kariri

20 Yasser Al Qahtani

25 Majed Almarshadi

Saudi Arabia Subs

(13') Naif Hazazi OUT Malek Al Hawsawi IN

(46') Mohammed Noor OUT Mohammad Al Shlhoub IN

(46') Saud Kariri OUT Taiseer Aljassam IN

(46') Ahmed Ateef OUT Abdulatif Al Ghanam IN

(46') Hussein Al Sulaimani OUT Manaf Aboshgair IN

(46') Osama Hawsawi OUT Naif Al Qadi IN

(46') Majed Almarshadi OUT Hamad Al Montashari IN

(46') Yasser Al Qahtani OUT Nassir Alshamrani IN

(46') Waleed Abdullah (Gk) OUT Mabrouk Zaid (Gk) IN

(46') Abdullah Shuhail OUT Mohammed Massad IN

(67') Malek Al Hawsawi OUT Abdulaziz Al-saran IN

(71') Hassan Muath OUT Abdulrahman Al Qahtani IN

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With that many substitutions, it can't be a full FIFA game. Even if FIFA lists it on their site, they make a lot of mistakes.

Thanks guys, great stuff.

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28/08/19 Oman 1 Yemen 0 Al Seeb Abdulla AL MARRI (Qatar)

OMAN Faiz AL RASHIDI, Ali AL BUSAIDI, Mohamed AL MUSALLAMI, Amran AL HAIDI, Saad SUHAIL, Al Munther AL ALAWI (Raed IBRAHIM 46), Yassin AL SHEAYADI (Ahmed MUBARAK), Harib AL SAADI, Mohsen JAWHAR (Mohamed MUBARAK), Salah AL YAHYAI, Aziz AL MUQBALI

Goal: A. Mubarak 88

YEMEN Salem AL HARH (Salem AWAD 46), Mohamed BUGSHAN (Ahmed AL KHAMRI 46), Mohamed FOUAD (Mohamed BAROIES 61), Mudir AL RADAEI, Mohamed Jamal AL MADARI, Mufid JAMAL, Ahmed Mahir JAMAL (Manaf SAAED 46), Ali ABDULLA (Abdulwasea AL MATEA 61), Omar AL DAHI, Mohsin QARAWI, Emad MANSOUR

There are five other names for Oman subs, but I can't guarantee whether they came on or not. On the Yemen side, the question mark is whether Ahmed Mahir Jamal or Manaf Saeed started. The team photo shows No.12 as starting, which is normally Jamal's number.

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Globalsportsarchive has that one under Non-FIFA, so I will make it Non-FIFA too, even though I don't know why.

Another thing - has anybody got the missing data from the West Asian Championships? Quite annoying, that one. Also the CHAN qualifiers are not looking too good. Should i put up the last games as "missing". Good lord, that competition really is the most annoying in world football. Tons of work, and so many careers that never lead to singke game for the A team.

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According JFA, Hiroki Mizumoto has played 7 games with national team and not 8.

Well, I haven't found the game in which he appaerently did not start. Anyone else?

So, I finally went through all of this. Sorry, but so little time...

If you are one of the old timers and want to have a look and/or help us testing, tell me here. I will then give you a link.

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Hi, in the match South Korea vs Poland (2:2) played 2011-10-07 (https://www.national-football-…2/South_Korea_Poland.html) Hong, Chul didn't play for South Korea.

Here (http://www.kfa.or.kr/archive/p…ch_val=%ED%99%8D%EC%B2%A0) you can see the matches played by him with the national team in the official website of KFA (this match doesn't appear) and here (http://www.kfa.or.kr/national/…rsor=#cursor_location_sub) you can see the report (maybe confused with Hong, Cheol),

Hi - which Hong Cheol would that be? Because in all the sources I could find (had a brief look) it seems that Hong Chul actually did play. That match against Poland was unofficial, though. The link you posted will not open for me.

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Missing Data from the friendly match Afghanistan - Palestine (0-0, 19th August 2018):

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C-t_vGuQPw (full record of the match on YouTube)

Substitutions Afghanistan:

67. Khaibar Amani for Noraollah Amiri (Time in video clip: 1:54:09)

75. Benjamin Nadjem for Mustafa Hadid (2:01:36)

77. Zelfy Nazary for Milad Intezar (2:02:36)

83. Mustafa Zazai for Faysal Shayesteh (captain) (2:09:19)

86. Amiruddin Sharifi for Omran Haydary (2:12:33)

90. Adam Najem for Fardin Hakimi (2:16:16)

Sustitutions Palestine:

56. Pablo Tamborini for Mohammed Yamin (1:43:13)

72. Helal Mousa for Abdelhamid Abu Habib (1:58:37)

78. Ahmad Abu Raas for Waleed Al-Qunbur (2:04:20)

83. Ahmad Abou Khadija for Moh. Sameh Maraba (2:10:03)

88. Mohamad Natour for Jonathan Zorrilla (2:15:02)

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I don't have Fardan Hakimi in the line-up, so there is probably a mistake here somewhere? Could well be us.

So it seems that we have to pull the important threads up manually by answering to them. Testing this hypothesis.

So, as you can see, we changed the forum. I am really sorry for neglecting this forum so much, but it all will be different now. As you know, we are a very small operation, it's basically me, Florian who does the programming and a few volunteers who add data. So if we have a problem, it can take quite some time to fix it.

I will look through the forum tomorrow, and add everything that we have been missing.

[quote='soccerscout','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49596#post49596'] Which of Alcénat's games in 2008 do you consider non-FIFA? They are all FIFA games: http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=hai/men/matches/index.html#year2008 http://national-football-teams.com/player/16469/Jean_Sony_Alcenat.html [/quote] It's the game against Guatemala, on the 23th of April. Guatemala had 8 subs, so according to FIFA's own rules, this shouldn't be a full FIFA game. Mind you, FIFA has loads of these games in their archives, sometimes even with 10 subs. Since some time in 2004 (the exact date is not completely clear to me, but it could be July 1st), FIFA only considers matches full FIFA games when they have no more than six substitutes. Now, if FIFA lists games with seven subs on their site as full FIFA games, I accept that. Why, I hear you ask? Because in the past, associations have made appeals to FIFA to count games as full FIFA games, even when they had a sub too much, and sometimes these appeals go through. England had one, I seem to remember, although I can't tell you which game it was. Sadly, FIFA doesn't communicate this at all. So with seven subs I give the game the benefit of the doubt, if it is listed by FIFA as a full FIFA game. But I have to draw the line somewhere, and I do it as soon as we have 8 subs. What this comes down to, is that FIFA is doing an extremely bad job. They don't properly look at the matches on their site, and the whole system when a game is considered a full FIFA game is, well, shit. I really have to put this somewhere ob the site, maybe the FAQs, as i have been having this conversation far too often.

So, this should be better now, I hope.

Hi - it seems that only the Finland-Jordan game is a full FIFA game, right? I won't be adding the Danish games, I think, and I am unsure about the rest. It's an awful amount of work for loads of games nobody seems to bother with. I am really not sure how and when I have time to add all of these games. I think if I don't get help with adding games for NFT soon, I will have to cut down on stuff. My family life is actually beginning to suffer, this is turning out to be too much work for one person, as I am the only one adding games, doing all the mails (that has gotten completely out of control, too) most of the transfers and so on.

Saludos, desde Cuba, gracias por este formidable sitio de estadisticas,como podria ayudarle a actualizar y corregir algunos errores por ejemplo en la seleccion uruguaya de 1968 , falta un match jugado por el jugador Juan Maldonado vs Mexico el 26 de Septiembre de 1968. Y en la seleccion brasileña de 1940 falta el jugador Lele (del Club Madureira) que jugo vs Argentina el 10 de marzo de 1940. Me encantaria seguir ayudando y actualizando este maravilloso sitio What exactly does he want me to change?

[quote='PAULOM37','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49558#post49558'] http://www.national-football-teams.com/matches/report/18363/Mali_Ivory_Coast.html# Be careful it's a wrong Amara Traoré who plays, the true player who play in TP Mazembe. [/quote] I don't quite get what you are trying to tell me here.

[quote='soccerscout','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49458#post49458'] I believe in 2010, the non-FIFA game is Mexico - Spain. However FIFA does count it as a FIFA game (like all the other friendlies in 2010 that are shown for Mexico) http://national-football-teams.com/matches/report/10727/Mexico_Spain.html http://national-football-teams.com/country/121/2010/Mexico.html http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=mex/men/matches/index.html#year2010 [/quote] Then they are ignoring their own rules - again. Mexico made 7 subs in this game, Spain went for 8. I am willing to keep games with 7 subs, that are listed by FIFA, as games with too many subs are sometimes made official afterwards, in a process that noone seems to understand. Also FIFA never communicates any of this. But this seems too much, so I think that game should not be counted as a full FIFA game.

[quote='soccerscout','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49426#post49426'] Haiti - Brazil is actually a FIFA game (yes, sounds weird with so many substitutions) http://nationalfootballteams.com/matches/report/17761/Haiti_Brazil.html http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=bra/men/matches/index.html#year2004 http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=hai/men/matches/index.html#year2004 [/quote] FIFA introduced its "no more than six substitutions or it isn't a full international"-rule in 2004. They decided on the new rule early in 2004, and from what I could find out (not too much, I am afraid) it became officially binding at the start of the 2004/05 season in July. If anyone has better information than I do, please say so, at the moment I am doing 2004 updates according to this.

Hi - Johnny of weltfussballarchiv was asking if anyone had the North korean subs for their last game against Qatar. For some of the last games, one of you guys actually mailed their coach, Jörn Andersen, for the subs. Anyone?

Roger have you got anything on 2005? I am stuck with Kuwait at the moment, and can't find match data anywhere for some players we have in the database, like Ahmad Hani or Meshaal Faihan.

[quote='s2pid','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49349#post49349'] [quote='mrfil79','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49342#post49342'] 2005 - Hong Kong vs Macau Friendly (Inter Port Cup) 8-1 (2-0 at half time). Played in Hong Kong (Mong Kok Stadium) Goals: Hong Kong: Leung Tsz Chun 33', Lee Chi Ho 41', Lam Ka Wai 46', Chan Siu Ki 48' 67' 87' 90', Cheng Lai Hin 65' (pen). Macau: Chong Kun Kan 86' Hong Kong: 1. Tse Tak Him (Sub: 63’ 19. Eugene Kan)、3. Man Pei Tak、4. Chan Wai Ho、7. Chan Yiu Lun (Sub: 57’ 13. Kwok Kin Pong)、9. Cheng Lai Hin、11. Lam Ka Wai、14. Leung Tsz Chun (Sub: 51’ 25. Sham Kwok Keung)、16. Leung Kam Fai、18. Chan Siu Ki、20. Leung Chun Pong (Sub: 69’ 10. So Cheuk Man), 24. Lee Chi Ho (Sub: 69’ 5. Kwok Wing Lok)。 Macau：1. Chu Hon Ming William、3. Yap Keng Pak(Sub: 68’ 19. Lam Ka Pou)、5. Lam Ka Koi、6. Ho Kin Tong(Sub: 60’ 12. Un Ka Hei)、8. Che Chi Man(Sub: 56’ 17. Iek Kim Pang)、9. Ian Chi Pang(Sub: 41’ 7. Chong Kun Kan)、10. Geofredo Cheung、13. Paulo Cheang (Sub:59’ 11. Lei Fu Weng)、14. Rineo Sousa、18. Luo Jun、20. Liu Bo Jian。 Yellow card：65’ 1. Chu Hon Ming William [/quote] This match should be deleted along with a couple more interport matches which I've mentioned on here before. It's non-FIFA and Hong Kong was their Olympic team. [/quote] We treat them as Non-FIFA matches.