Posts by Benjamin

So it seems that we have to pull the important threads up manually by answering to them. Testing this hypothesis.

So, as you can see, we changed the forum. I am really sorry for neglecting this forum so much, but it all will be different now. As you know, we are a very small operation, it's basically me, Florian who does the programming and a few volunteers who add data. So if we have a problem, it can take quite some time to fix it.

I will look through the forum tomorrow, and add everything that we have been missing.

[quote='soccerscout','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49596#post49596'] Which of Alcénat's games in 2008 do you consider non-FIFA? They are all FIFA games: http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=hai/men/matches/index.html#year2008 http://national-football-teams.com/player/16469/Jean_Sony_Alcenat.html [/quote] It's the game against Guatemala, on the 23th of April. Guatemala had 8 subs, so according to FIFA's own rules, this shouldn't be a full FIFA game. Mind you, FIFA has loads of these games in their archives, sometimes even with 10 subs. Since some time in 2004 (the exact date is not completely clear to me, but it could be July 1st), FIFA only considers matches full FIFA games when they have no more than six substitutes. Now, if FIFA lists games with seven subs on their site as full FIFA games, I accept that. Why, I hear you ask? Because in the past, associations have made appeals to FIFA to count games as full FIFA games, even when they had a sub too much, and sometimes these appeals go through. England had one, I seem to remember, although I can't tell you which game it was. Sadly, FIFA doesn't communicate this at all. So with seven subs I give the game the benefit of the doubt, if it is listed by FIFA as a full FIFA game. But I have to draw the line somewhere, and I do it as soon as we have 8 subs. What this comes down to, is that FIFA is doing an extremely bad job. They don't properly look at the matches on their site, and the whole system when a game is considered a full FIFA game is, well, shit. I really have to put this somewhere ob the site, maybe the FAQs, as i have been having this conversation far too often.

So, this should be better now, I hope.

Hi - it seems that only the Finland-Jordan game is a full FIFA game, right? I won't be adding the Danish games, I think, and I am unsure about the rest. It's an awful amount of work for loads of games nobody seems to bother with. I am really not sure how and when I have time to add all of these games. I think if I don't get help with adding games for NFT soon, I will have to cut down on stuff. My family life is actually beginning to suffer, this is turning out to be too much work for one person, as I am the only one adding games, doing all the mails (that has gotten completely out of control, too) most of the transfers and so on.

Saludos, desde Cuba, gracias por este formidable sitio de estadisticas,como podria ayudarle a actualizar y corregir algunos errores por ejemplo en la seleccion uruguaya de 1968 , falta un match jugado por el jugador Juan Maldonado vs Mexico el 26 de Septiembre de 1968. Y en la seleccion brasileña de 1940 falta el jugador Lele (del Club Madureira) que jugo vs Argentina el 10 de marzo de 1940. Me encantaria seguir ayudando y actualizando este maravilloso sitio What exactly does he want me to change?

[quote='PAULOM37','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49558#post49558'] http://www.national-football-teams.com/matches/report/18363/Mali_Ivory_Coast.html# Be careful it's a wrong Amara Traoré who plays, the true player who play in TP Mazembe. [/quote] I don't quite get what you are trying to tell me here.

[quote='soccerscout','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49458#post49458'] I believe in 2010, the non-FIFA game is Mexico - Spain. However FIFA does count it as a FIFA game (like all the other friendlies in 2010 that are shown for Mexico) http://national-football-teams.com/matches/report/10727/Mexico_Spain.html http://national-football-teams.com/country/121/2010/Mexico.html http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=mex/men/matches/index.html#year2010 [/quote] Then they are ignoring their own rules - again. Mexico made 7 subs in this game, Spain went for 8. I am willing to keep games with 7 subs, that are listed by FIFA, as games with too many subs are sometimes made official afterwards, in a process that noone seems to understand. Also FIFA never communicates any of this. But this seems too much, so I think that game should not be counted as a full FIFA game.

[quote='soccerscout','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49426#post49426'] Haiti - Brazil is actually a FIFA game (yes, sounds weird with so many substitutions) http://nationalfootballteams.com/matches/report/17761/Haiti_Brazil.html http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=bra/men/matches/index.html#year2004 http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=hai/men/matches/index.html#year2004 [/quote] FIFA introduced its "no more than six substitutions or it isn't a full international"-rule in 2004. They decided on the new rule early in 2004, and from what I could find out (not too much, I am afraid) it became officially binding at the start of the 2004/05 season in July. If anyone has better information than I do, please say so, at the moment I am doing 2004 updates according to this.

Hi - Johnny of weltfussballarchiv was asking if anyone had the North korean subs for their last game against Qatar. For some of the last games, one of you guys actually mailed their coach, Jörn Andersen, for the subs. Anyone?

Roger have you got anything on 2005? I am stuck with Kuwait at the moment, and can't find match data anywhere for some players we have in the database, like Ahmad Hani or Meshaal Faihan.

[quote='s2pid','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49349#post49349'] [quote='mrfil79','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49342#post49342'] 2005 - Hong Kong vs Macau Friendly (Inter Port Cup) 8-1 (2-0 at half time). Played in Hong Kong (Mong Kok Stadium) Goals: Hong Kong: Leung Tsz Chun 33', Lee Chi Ho 41', Lam Ka Wai 46', Chan Siu Ki 48' 67' 87' 90', Cheng Lai Hin 65' (pen). Macau: Chong Kun Kan 86' Hong Kong: 1. Tse Tak Him (Sub: 63’ 19. Eugene Kan)、3. Man Pei Tak、4. Chan Wai Ho、7. Chan Yiu Lun (Sub: 57’ 13. Kwok Kin Pong)、9. Cheng Lai Hin、11. Lam Ka Wai、14. Leung Tsz Chun (Sub: 51’ 25. Sham Kwok Keung)、16. Leung Kam Fai、18. Chan Siu Ki、20. Leung Chun Pong (Sub: 69’ 10. So Cheuk Man), 24. Lee Chi Ho (Sub: 69’ 5. Kwok Wing Lok)。 Macau：1. Chu Hon Ming William、3. Yap Keng Pak(Sub: 68’ 19. Lam Ka Pou)、5. Lam Ka Koi、6. Ho Kin Tong(Sub: 60’ 12. Un Ka Hei)、8. Che Chi Man(Sub: 56’ 17. Iek Kim Pang)、9. Ian Chi Pang(Sub: 41’ 7. Chong Kun Kan)、10. Geofredo Cheung、13. Paulo Cheang (Sub:59’ 11. Lei Fu Weng)、14. Rineo Sousa、18. Luo Jun、20. Liu Bo Jian。 Yellow card：65’ 1. Chu Hon Ming William [/quote] This match should be deleted along with a couple more interport matches which I've mentioned on here before. It's non-FIFA and Hong Kong was their Olympic team. [/quote] We treat them as Non-FIFA matches.

[quote='bakerrp','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49318#post49318'] It should have been in the same e-mail as the CONCACAF file. I attached the African file as well, it's the one labelled Annual 3. It's still on my sent copy, so unless it was stripped somewhere it should have already come through. [/quote] I have now begun to add 2005 data - so anything that you have got is appreciated, Roger. As usual, it's mostly African, Asian and CONCACAF data that is missing.

Partially missing: Qatar - Libya (02.01) Jordan - Kazakhstan (14.02) North Korea - Kazakhstan (24.02) Thailand - Kazakhstan (28.12) Missing: Jordan - ivory Coast (17.01) Ethiopia - Yemen (17.07) Syria - Libya (05.08) Yemen - Libya (26.08) Yemen - Libya (29.08) Yemen - Comoros (14.12) Yemen - Djibouti (20.12) Lebanon - Sudan (27.12)

Partially missing: Guyana - Antigua (24.02) Guyana - Antigua (26.02) Guyana - Saint Lucia (28.07) Guyana - Saint Lucia (30.07) Antigua - Saint Vincent (27.08) Barbados - Guyana (02.09) Antigua - Dominica (03.09) Dominica - Barbados (17.09) Haiti - Dominican Rep (17.09) Haiti - Cuba (17.10) Haiti - Cuba (19.10) Saint Vincent - Grenada (01.11) Saint Vincent - Antigua (05.11) Barbados - Grenada (05.11) Martinique - Saint Vincent (28.12) Missing: Saint Kitts - Saint Martin (25.02) Guadeloupe - Saint Lucia (20.05) Haiti - Dominican Rep (15.09) Saint Vincent - Martinique (22.10) Antigua - Grenada (03.11) Martinique - Saint Vincent (30.12)

So, this hopefully will work better. Here I am going to list all the matches where we are missing data between asian countries. Partially missing: Bahrain - Syria (30.01) Thailand - Jordan (01.02) Oman - Singapore (06.02) Syria - Palestine (07.02) Kuwait - Jordan (07.02) Qatar - Tajikistan (14.02) Saudi Arabia - Syria (14.02) Bahrain - Palestine (16.02) North Korea - Kazakhstan (24.02) Thailand - Philippines (26.03) UAE - Syria (02.05) Jordan - Syria (30.07) Saudi Arabia - Bahrain (09.08) China - Thailand (10.08) Saudi Arabia - UAE (27.08) Oman - Syria (01.09) Bahrain - Jordan (02.09) Oman - Bahrain (08.11) Saudi Arabia - Jordan (08.11) Kuwait - Taiwan (09.11) Thailand - Vietnam (24.12) Thailand - Vietnam (30.12) Missing: Pakistan - Palestine (18.02) Macau - Hong Kong (03.06) Macau - Taiwan (09.08)

Can't find a way to rename the topic, so I am going to open a new thread. Roger, can you send me the data for Africa in 2006? Then I can begin to tackle those matches.

I realized that this system is confusing, so I will put all the missing data in the first post, and also change the name of the topic. If I can do that, that is. ;)

[quote='bakerrp','http://www.national-teams.com/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=49308#post49308'] It's probably easiest if I post you a copy of something that I was working on in 2007 to answer some of these. Back then, I produced four volumes of stats for the season 2006, 1 for Europe, 1 for the Americas, 1 for Africa 1 for Asia, and touted it around the football book publishers with no success. I have the original, and I've done some updating already on the Asian one for you. I'll drop it through by e-mail. [/quote] This makes me so happy. Probably more than it should. :D

This is great - I am going to continue posting the games with missing data of 2006 in this thread. Let's see how far we can take this.