If you find mistakes (of which there must be a lot)

    Quote from SiebenW

    No, the case is different.

    The 2011 Pan Arab Games are a tournament designed for Arab senior national teams. So, every nation was free to field their best players without any restriction. If a nation did field alternate teams it was by choice. As it was an official tournament, all matches shall be listed including showing every line-up.

    Does this open the door then for a completion of results to be taken for the 2007 Pan-Arab games involving UAE B and Sudan B?

    Also, Just missing Qatar Olympic 0-1 Palestine from the 1999 games. Lebanon v Oman was also from these games and wasn't a friendly match. Can I also make a (personal) suggestion that if the goalscorers are included in these matches, that they are put down as partially complete so that they can be added to the tournament page? This involves Libya v Bahrain Olympic, UAE v Syria and UAE v Libya.

    The 1985 and 1997 editions have goalscorers missing so I'm okay with them being left as they are for now.

    Edited once, last by Ro83rto (February 3, 2026 at 10:14 AM).

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    Does this open the door then for a completion of results to be taken for the 2007 Pan-Arab games involving UAE B and Sudan B?

    Also, Just missing Qatar Olympic 0-1 Palestine from the 1999 games. Lebanon v Oman was also from these games and wasn't a friendly match. Can I also make a (personal) suggestion that if the goalscorers are included in these matches, that they are put down as partially complete so that they can be added to the tournament page? This involves Libya v Bahrain Olympic, UAE v Syria and UAE v Libya.

    The 1985 and 1997 editions have goalscorers missing so I'm okay with them being left as they are for now.

    You mentioned a few very good points, I like much.

    First of all your idea about setting matches with known scorer from "missing" to "partilly missing" so that the result will be considered for the tournaments table. At the moment the current guideline from webmaster and admins is setting matches as missing until the first non-scoring player is set. That results in matches with 3 (or more) known scorers classified as "missing" while a match from which we don't know any scorer are set as "partially missing" when we may have just one player, examplary could it be the team captain shown on the ref/captains pre-match photo. Ironically, that player could be one of the unknown scorers, so having less information in that example leads to the match being higher classified. So, your suggestion makes good sense. Though I don't know if webmaster/admins will change the guidelines, it's up to them, I just follow.
    But in EVERY case, all matches, including the "missing" ones (like a goalless draw without known players) should count into the group tables. The current state is very annoying, and it was already discussed internally various times. So, this issue is more a software topic than an user topic. The software should be changed, but as you may have experienced the IT department is more focused on get the website running which is more than understandibly. So, the tournament tables have a lower priority. Not knowing when this will be adjusted.

    You are also right with the tournaments. If an official tournament is covered ALL matches should be list, either as non-FIFA or against un-editable opponents. The 2007 Pan Arab Games, may be a bit special, as NFT decided to do single match reports around 2008 and so the standards weren't established by then, and maybe even the (Pan) Arab Games as a whole tournament haven't yet been created. But on the other side, it is also another good example how everything turns out to be a mess without common standards with the only guideline we look at each team individually. Some matches are forgotten, some others listed as normal friendlies instead of being in the proper tournament, and then we have "alternate" national teams which are completely forgotten. I really fear that Olympics 1948 to 1980 will become that same mess, reason why I suggested to concentrate on the official stuff first, and then doing the Olympics properly.

    Another annoying question is whether a national team is to be set as A-team playing non-FIFA or as an alternate team. Personally, I also see the standards clear, playing an official tournament without restrictions should make the team editable. So users can see which team played and make their own choice. And to not harm the statistics we set these games as non-FIFA, so the official statistics don't get affected. B-teams should only be listed when a nation sent two different teams to an official tournament. Even if games were played at the same time, a national team player pool of 30 to 40 players could have been split. Even in the 2007 Pan Arab Games the Emirates squad featured some players already capped in other matches for or after the tournament, but as the Emirates played some official FIFA matches at the same, and I know that webmaster and the other admins don't like non-FIFA matches too much anyway, I set the Emirates team as Olympic team, source KSA-team and also the scorer I saw linked on the wiki page matches in that age category. On the Sudani side I decided to list the matches as non-FIFA senior matches. It was an official tournament, and they had no other matches at that time, there next match was a friendly in preparation for CECAFA Cup, 6 days after their final Pan Arab Games' match. So, they technically were able to field their best players. Not sure if they really did, or if their A-team had been grouped 2 weeks somewhere isolated before the Eritrea match. Still, the top players from the Pan Arab Games could join the team for the Eritrea friendlies. Maybe Hamam Shimani has some more infos?

    Also I did clear up the 1999 Pan Arab Games. Like I did clear up a few other tourmaments in the last year. But still there should be a few more "messy" tournaments. Something generally, I had some free time at the moment and am focused on the Arab region now anyway, so it was a pleasure to clear up that tournaments, but in general that can become very time consuming. So, I mostly did it when I took a closer look at any of the participating countries anyway. So when posting more "messy" tournaments, I probably won't do them. At least not right at the moment. It still would be good to get everything in order. So either other users/admins/webmaster will take care or we put it on a list. Though in this "If you find mistakes"-thread these posts will probably get lost and forgotten, like all the other stuff not done straight away.

    Slight mix-up with pictures of the two Yusuf Ahmed's for Somalia.


    Yusuf Ahmed

    B.1997

    2026 Green Gully (Australia)

    2025 Avondale (Australia) 18/7


    Yusuf Ali Ahmed 

    (Wrong Yusuf Ahmed picture currently on site, please replace with the one below)

    B.2003 in Adelaide (Australia)

    2026 Eastern Lions (Australia)

    2025 Avondale (Australia)

    2024 Avondale (Australia)

    2023 Salisbury United (Australia)



    Also, Leon Alizart has joined Avondale for the 2026 season

    Norman Forde (Barbados):

    5 goals for Milan Youth in the early part of 2001.

    1 goal for for Milan Youth in 2002.

    1 goal for for Milan Youth in 2003.

    0 goal for for Milan Youth in 2004.

    3 goals for for Milan Youth in 2006.

    Loaned to Firehouse in 2012.

    Joined Empire (Barbados) in 2022 and retired after one season.

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    I can't find the club Firehouse for Barbados.

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    I can't find the club Firehouse for Barbados.

    Not sure if this video helps but here he is in an interview while playing for Firehouse.

    Possibly not sure if Barbados Fire Service Sports & Social Club FC and Firehouse are one and the same?

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    Not sure if this video helps but here he is in an interview while playing for Firehouse.

    Possibly not sure if Barbados Fire Service Sports & Social Club FC and Firehouse are one and the same?

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    The LIME Pelican Football Challenge 2012 was a "semi-professional" entreprises tournament. Personally, I don't want to have such teams as they weren't proper clubs just playing a short-term one-time tournament. Norman Forde's club in 2012 was still Youth Milan playing in club football in the Premier League.

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    The LIME Pelican Football Challenge 2012 was a "semi-professional" entreprises tournament. Personally, I don't want to have such teams as they weren't proper clubs just playing a short-term one-time tournament. Norman Forde's club in 2012 was still Youth Milan playing in club football in the Premier League.

    Okay thank you.