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  • bakerrp
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  • Ro83rto
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    • October 22, 2024 at 4:15 PM
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    Macedonia v Egypt 1998-09-29

    A few changes here for Egypt. Backed up by macedonianfootball and Dr. Tarek Said

    Medhat Abdel-Hady and Abdel-Sattar Sabry start instead of Amr Fahim and Hany Ramzy, who don't play.

    4 subs for Egypt: Yasser Rayan for Abdel-Sattar Sabry (69th) / Osama Nabih for Mohamed Emara (75th) / 'Bebo' for Hazem Eman (80th) / Mohamed Sabry for Ahmed Hassan (85th).

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    • October 23, 2024 at 12:41 AM
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    Iran vs. Pakistan 1986-02-16

    Pics of the starting lineup of all three matches at the 1986 Fajr International Tournament. This pic with green shirt is against Poland U21, so discarded. This can be verified by this pic that it was against Poland youth. The rest two matches were against Iran national team (official) and Al Fotuwa SC (unofficial) where the team played with the white kit. So we have the pics of the two remaining matches:

    Image source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paki…ehran,_Iran.jpg

    Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid…84860991&type=3

    Since the match report in national-teams is saying Shahzada Arbab Kasi (second standing from right to left in last pic) was present at the match, likely the last pic is of the match against Iran if he was indeed present or he didn't came as substitute. However, the players present in both two lineups missing in the report are:

    Mukhtar Ali, Ejaz Ali, Jamshaid Anwar Rana, Shaukat Mufti, Agha Saeed, Samuel Gill, Fida Ur Rehman

    Add: Looks like the matches against Poland U21 and Al Fotuwa SC were held in Azadi Stadium, while the match against Iran was held at Shahid Shiroudi Stadium. The last pic venue looks different compared to the other two pics, so most possibly the last pic is of the match against Iran.

    Edited 6 times, last by jost69 (November 1, 2024 at 9:20 PM).

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    • October 23, 2024 at 2:34 AM
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    Jordan vs. Pakistan 1992-08-20

    Found this pic from the facebook profile a Pakistani player who made his debut "Mohammad Khaled Khan" (sitting at far left shirt number 6).

    So far for the rest of players I can recognise are Mohamed Noman (second standing from left shirt number 10), Zafar Iqbal (fourth standing from left shirt num 4), and Mohammad Tariq Hussain (second sitting from left shirt num 3).

    Source: https://www.facebook.com/khaled.khan.39…dfo4KTk9wCaXPcl

    Found a clearer version of this lineup (Jordan vs. Pakistan 1992-08-20)

    Rest of players I can identify are Naeem Khalid (sitting far right, number 2 shirt) and Muhammad Munir (goalkeeper, uncreated)

    Pic for Muhammad Munir

    Place of birth: Lahore, Pakistan

    Position: Goalkeeper

    Played for Pakistan Railways (1984-??) and Wohaib (1992-1993) according to this post

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    • October 23, 2024 at 7:05 PM
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    Tahir Agha

    Date of birth: 12 December 1970

    Place of birth: Quetta, Pakistan

    Position: Midfielder

    Pic:

    Source with his info: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=81…813939281977153

    The pic on him is extracted from the following team roster of the national team in 1993, likely during the 1993 SAARC Gold Cup and would be a great resource to complete missing data (name, DOB, position, and pic) of players of the 1990s, but unfortunately it is blurry and havent been able to find a clearer version so far

    Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=38…400673717593799

    Edited once, last by jost69 (December 27, 2024 at 11:20 PM).

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    • October 24, 2024 at 7:27 PM
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    Iraq v Palestine 2018-12-28

    Few more Palestine subs: Oday Dabbagh for Yashir Pinto and Khaled Salem for Mahmoud Wali.

    It also mentions Mahdi Kamil Sheltagh playing instead of Mahdi Karim Ajeel. I don't know for sure but considering Mahdi Karim Ajeel retired from club football a year earlier I lean to agree with this.

    Source: ESPN

    Just going to come back to this as I've noticed an error. Mahdi Karim Ajeel is still mentioned in the substitutions coming off for Bashar Rasan Bonyan. He needs replacing with Mahdi Kamil Sheltagh.

    Just to complete the Palestine substitutions as well: Jonathan Cantillana for Sameh Maaraba (53rd), Oday Dabbagh for Yashir Pinto (61st), Khaled Salem for Mahmoud Wadi (74th) and Musab Battat for Tamer Seyam (83rd).

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    • October 31, 2024 at 7:36 PM
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    Quote from SiebenW

    Yes, we believe transfermarkt here. To mention a great local source here we see Menad confirmed. I think that's the kind of missing data which happens when putting matches online and the uploader just forgets something, as the match wasn't set to "partially missing" either. So, good work of yours Ro83rto to spot that one.

    I realise these are mistakes and not missing data, but I just wanted to reply to this post as a thank you for bringing the source to my attention and thus have used said source for my own records, and only noticed a couple that differ from their records and yours:

    Algeria v Morocco 1986-03-08

    Nasser Bouiche starts here instead of Rabah Madjer and it's Nasser himself, not Nacer that goes off for Hakim Medane. Nacer plays the full match.

    Tunisia v Algeria 1987-01-11

    Nacer Mekideche plays here instead of Tahar Cherif El-Ouazzani.

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    • October 31, 2024 at 10:24 PM
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    To fill in a lot of the missing DOBs of USA players, can I recommend this new site. It's a sister site to Eu-Football.

    USA Soccer Team History and Stats
    Match reports for all the United States national soccer team games since 1916, detailed soccer statistics
    us-soccer.team
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    • November 1, 2024 at 9:59 PM
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    You actually read my mind lol. I was going to put him, but left as I was still not completely sure and didn't really knew this player. Here is a clearer pic of his face although in his older years I recently submitted to his database, I found it here. They indeed very much look alike, I share ur thoughts and would say that's definitely him. Does anyone have any more opinions on this

    An update on this. I found this pic of Sri Lanka vs. Pakistan 2001-05-30. The player sitting at the far right looks exactly like him. In the report, a player named Zaffar Majeed played as a starter and was involved with Karachi Port Trust (KPT) at club level as the previous pic mentioned alongside his name, so maybe him and Fareed Majeed are the same? Would like a double confirmation but looks interesting.

    Standing L-R: Gohar Zaman, Unknown, Muhammad Essa, Noman Ibrahim, Unknown, Sarfraz Rasool

    Sitting L-R: Adeel Ahmed, Mohammad Arshad, Haroon Yousaf, Muhammad Riaz, Unknown

    Unknown players to me mentioned in the starting lineup are Amir Shahzad, Amir Riaz and Zaffar Majeed (could be the one sitting far right)

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    • November 1, 2024 at 11:04 PM
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    Some random lineups of Pakistan which I have in my draft since months. I know the context but unfortunately cant seem to determine the exact match. Hopefully this can serve for future reference.

    1) 1986 Asian Games. The team played four matches all of them with the lineups missing here.

    Standing L-R: Mohammed Naveed, Mukhtar Ali, Jamshaid Anwar Rana, Ghulam Sarwar "Teddy", Arbab Shahzada, Samuel Gill

    Sitting L-R: Zafar Iqbal, Fida Ur Rehman, Ejaz Ali, Abdul Samad, Abdul Wahid

    2) A lineup in the 1999 South Asian Games. So far the match against Nepal at the 1999 South Asian Games is covered in a previous post, and the team played with a different white kit, so possibly the lineup could belong to the match against India or Bhutan.

    Standing L-R: Muhammad Ejaz, Khuda Bakhsh, Muhammad Idrees (coach), Pedro Dias (coach), Najeeb Ullah Najmi (coach), Haroon Yousaf, Gohar Zaman, Sarfraz Rasool

    Sitting L-R: Muhammad Shafique (uncreated, pic), Malik Sher (uncreated, pic), Babar Mehmood, Muhammad Younis, Unknown (too many similar faces, either Allah Nawaz, Ghulam Murtaza or Muhammad Sajjad Bhatti), Dilshad Ali

    Face pics of 1999 SAF Games players can be accessed here.

    Mohammad Arshad (num.8) also played at India vs. Pakistan 1999-09-26 as evidenced by this, maybe came as substitute or the lineup pic is not of that match and instead of the match against Bhutan at the same tournament.

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    • November 1, 2024 at 11:08 PM
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    A Zafar Majeed search has conjured up this random video of him on youtube

    Whilst not conclusive, I see enough difference in the lips, ears and hairline to side with Zafar and Fareed being two different Majeed's.

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    • November 2, 2024 at 8:02 PM
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    Ghulam 'Teddy' Sarwar

    In this interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC8ikN1FRR4), he claims "his real year of birth is 1966 but had to fake being of 1962 in his identity card to play football earlier". I am a bit confused on this as usually it is the opposite.

    In this post of a roster of Pakistan for a match against a german team in 1983, both him and Sharafat Ali are shown and both definitely look very young and the same age, so I lean towards him being of 1966. In this 2021 post and this 2022 post, the OP wish him birthday on 27 February in both posts each year, so I place his DOB as 27 February 1966.

    For Sharafat Ali, looks like there is also some inconsistency. Although his biography state his DOB as 1 June 1966, this post of his birthday wishing is on 6 May, to which Sharafat thanked with his profile. Would be better if someone with access to old databases could double check on this one.

    Guess we will never be 100% accurate with the DOBs of Pakistani players when even with the actual players there is loads of contradicting info

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    • November 3, 2024 at 1:28 PM
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    Gevaro Nepomuceno

    2024 Bentleigh Greens (AUS)

    2023 Melbourne Knights (AUS) 26/5

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    • November 3, 2024 at 7:14 PM
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    1) Bangladesh vs. Thailand 1983-08-29

    Bangladesh XI:

    Mohamed Mohsin
    Abul Hossain  
    Azmat Ali
    Mazidul Islam
    Imtiaz Sultan Johnny
    Khurshid Alam Babul
    Ashish Bhadra
    Kazi Salahuddin (subbed by Sheikh Mohammad Aslam)
    Wasim Iqbal
    Samrat Hossain Emily
    Ashrafuddin Chunnu

    Thailand XI (incomplete):

    Chitri
    Kingsak
    Samop
    Samathan
    Shomchai
    Chairat
    Verapong
    Niwath
    Dharacharta (subbed by Adipong)

    Source

    The Thai player names were all in Bangla so its hard to find out their full names


    2) Bangladesh vs. Nepal 1983-09-05

    Bangladeshi XI:

    Mohamed Mohsin
    Abul Hossain
    Azmat Ali
    Mazidul Islam
    Imtiaz Sultan Johnny (subbed by Rouf Babul)
    Ashish Bhadra
    Kazi Salahuddin
    Sheikh Mohammad Aslam (subbed by Ejaz Ahmed)
    Wasim Iqbal
    Samrat Hossain Emily
    Ashrafuddin Chunnu

    Nepal XI:

    Gopal Shrestha (subbed by Lok Bahadur Shahi)
    Rupak Raj Sharma
    Bhakta Rajkarnikar
    Suresh Panthi
    Ashok KC (subbed by Kiran who's most likely Kiran Rai)
    Man Bahadur Malla
    Raju Kaji Shakya
    Bidur Bista
    Yam Bahadur Ghale
    Krishna Bahadur Thapa
    Ganesh Thapa

    Nepal's goal scorers were Krishna Bahadur Thapa & Ganesh Thapa

    Source

    3) Player Info:

    Name: Ejaz Ahmed
    DOB: 1960
    Position: Striker
    POB: Dhaka, Bangladesh
    Club History: Alubazar Crescent Club (1977), Bangladesh Sporting Club (1978 to 1979), The Muslim Institute (1980), Farashganj SC (1981), BRTC Dhaka (1981), Lalbagh SC (1982), Dilkusha SC (1982), Rahmatganj MFS (1983 to 1984), Muktijoddha Sangsad KC (1985), Rahmatganj MFS (1986 to 1987), Agrani Bank Dhaka (1988), Rahmatganh MFS (1989 to 1991)
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    Name: Abul Hossain
    DOB: 2 July 1957
    POB: Chandpur, Bangladesh
    Height: 1.73m
    Position: Right-back
    Club History: Azad Sporting Club (1975 to 1978), Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1979 to 1993)
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    Name: Rouf Babul
    Full Name: Abdur Rouf Babul
    DOB: 28 May 1963
    POB: Gazipur, Bangladesh
    Position: Center-back, Left-back
    Club History: Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1982), Victoria SC Dhaka (1983), City Club (1984), Brothers Union Dhaka (1985 to 1988), Farashganj SC (1989), Brothers Union (1990 to 1993), Farashganj SC (1994 to 1995)

    Edited once, last by Odd Soda (November 3, 2024 at 7:35 PM).

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    • November 4, 2024 at 11:00 AM
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    I wish that I had more detail to give you but all I can really find on the latest CHAN qualifiers are here, which is definitely not ideal - I'm hoping that you (or others) have better sources!

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    • November 4, 2024 at 12:47 PM
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    1) Bangladesh vs. Nepal 1983-09-22

    Bangladesh XI:

    Mohamed Mohsin
    Abul Hossain
    Azmat Ali
    Nazir Ahmed Alok
    Swapan Kumar Das
    Imtiaz Sultan Johnny
    Khurshid Alam Babul
    Ashish Bhadra
    Wasim Iqbal (subbed by Gaffar)
    Elias Hossain (subbed by Kazi Jashimuddin)
    Ashrafuddin Chunnu


    Source


    2) Player info:

    Name: Abdul Gaffar
    Full name: Mohamed Abdul Gaffar
    DOB: 28 November 1957
    POB: Dhaka, Bangladesh
    Height: 1.70m
    Position: Left-winger
    Club History: Tejgaon Friends Club (1974), The Muslim Institute (1975 to 1976), Shantinagar Club (1977 to 1979), Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1980 to 1982), Abahani KC Dhaka (1983 to 1985)

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    3) The Bangladesh national team head coach during all games in 1983 was Abdur Rahim
    Info:
    Name: Abdur Rahim
    DOB: 1932
    POB: Dhaka, Bangladesh
    Death: 30 October 2004
    Played for the Pakistan national football team in 1955
    Position: Left-winger
    Club history: Dhaka Wanderers (1948 to 1951), Fire Service (1952), Mohammedan SC Kolkata (1952), East Bengal Club (1953), Dhaka Wanderers (1953 to 1956).

    Source

    Edited once, last by Odd Soda (November 4, 2024 at 3:02 PM).

  • mikaelj
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    • November 4, 2024 at 1:37 PM
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    Quote from fezzle

    I wish that I had more detail to give you but all I can really find on the latest CHAN qualifiers are here, which is definitely not ideal - I'm hoping that you (or others) have better sources!

    I have all starting lineups, many substitutions and will post them here when I have made my final check...

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    • November 4, 2024 at 2:30 PM
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    Me too, but still hunting for extra subs.

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    Quote from fezzle

    I wish that I had more detail to give you but all I can really find on the latest CHAN qualifiers are here, which is definitely not ideal - I'm hoping that you (or others) have better sources!

    We will tackle those after the next bunch of "proper" internationals.

    Cursing at sudanese football line-ups since 2004.

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    • November 4, 2024 at 7:17 PM
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    Here we go this is what i have on the Chan qualifiers

    WAFU Zone A - Round 1

    a lot of missing subs here

    October 27
    Monrovia (Liberia)
    Sierra Leone 1-2 Liberia
    SLE:Suffian Kalokoh 22
    LIB:Lawrence Kumeh 3,og (Alpha Kabia) 58
    Missed pen:Sallieu Tarawallie 90+5
    Venue:Samuel Kanyon Doe Sports Complex, Monrovia
    Att:
    Referee:Abdoulaye Diarra (MLI)
    Assistant Referees:Baba Yomboliba (MLI)/Souleymane Traoré (MLI)
    Fourth Official:Richard Kamaté (MLI)
    Sent off:Francis Koroma ca 60,Sabastine Teclar 90+5
    Booked:
    SLE:1 Francis Koroma-
    2 Yusuf Sesay,15 Yeami Dunia (C),12 Nathaniel Jalloh,3 Abu Bakarr Barrie,19 Saidu Bah Kamara,5 Alpha Kabia,11 Alpha Kamara,18 Sallieu Tarawallie,10 Ibrahim Turay,7 Suffian Kalokoh
    Used:16 Issac Caulker (GK) (used),14 Nabieu Navas Daffae (used),14 Patrick A. Conteh (used)
    SUBS:6 Mohamed Fogbawa,20 Mohamed Bangura,17 Momoh L. Dumbuya,8 Joseph Cleveland
    Coach:Alhaji Foray
    LIB:1 Teddy Kollie-
    17 Philip Tarnue,5 Kemoh S. Kamara (C),18 Natus Swen,12 Sabastine Teclar-
    6 Armah Vaikainah,7 Lawrence Kumeh,10 Sheku Sheriff-
    15 Daniel Toe,2 Edward Ledlum-
    11 William Gibson
    Used:4 Marvin Blapoh (used),9 Mark Yallah (used),3 Nelson Laomie (used)
    Subs:16 Emmanuel Deanneh (GK),8 Abdulai Bility,13 Josephus Mantor,19 Daniel Nyemah
    Coach:Thomas Kojo (Interim)

    november 1

    Monrovia

    Liberia 1-1 Sierra Leone = 3-2
    LIB:Lawrence Kumeh 52
    SLE:Momoh Lappo Dumbuya 22
    Venue:Samuel Kanyon Doe Sports Complex, Monrovia
    Att:
    Referee:Lamin Jammeh (GAM)
    Assistant Referees:Abdul Aziz Bollel Jawo (GAM)/Mustapha Bojang (GAM)
    Fourth Official:Alhasan Bass (GAM)
    Booked:
    LIB:1 Teddy Kollie-
    17 Philip Tarnue,5 Kemoh Kamara (C),18 Natus Swen,3 Nelson Laomie,
    6 Armah Vaikainah,7 Lawrence Kumeh,8 Abdulai Bility,15 Daniel Toe,2 Edward Ledlum,
    11 William Gibson
    SUBS:16 Emmanuel Deanneh (GK),4 Marvin Blapoh,10 Sheku Sheriff,9 Mark Yallah,13 Josephus Mator,19 Daniel Nyemah,12 Prince Nagbo
    Coach: Thomas Kojo
    SLE:16 Isaac Caulker-
    2 Yusuf Sesay,15 Yemie Dunia (C),12 Nathaniel Jalloh,3 Abu Bakarr Barrie-
    19 Saidu Bah Kamara,17 Momoh Lappo Dumbuya,11 Alpha Kamara,18 Salieu Tarawalie,10 Ibrahim Turay,
    7 Suffian Kalokoh
    Subs:16 Unisa Conteh (GK),6 Mohamed Fogbawa used,14 Nabieu Navas Daffae,20 Mohamed Bangura,9 Mohamed Santhawahaj Bangura,14 Patrick A. Conteh,8 Joseph Cleveland
    Coach: Alhaji Forey

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    • November 4, 2024 at 7:20 PM
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    WAFU Zone B - Round 1

    October 25
    Lomé
    Togo 2-0 Benin
    Denis Abalo 11,Bruno Avotor 90+4
    Venue:Stade de Kégué, Lomé
    Att:
    Referee:Bashir Salisu (NIG)
    Assistant Referees:Abdulmajeed Olaide (NIG)/Tejiri Digbori (NIG)
    Fourth Official:Grema Mohammed (NIG)
    Booked:T 17,Mamoudou Kamarou 49,Roland jr Beakou 56, T 74,Amouzou Roland Hermann 78
    TOG:16 Sama Mahadiou (C)-
    5 Bode Abdoul-Sabourh,14 Sama Abdoul-Halimou,15 Adjessi Georges,21 Amouzou Roland Hermann (4 Holété Benjamin 83)-
    3 Agbetogon Antoine,12 Denis Abalo,8 Ouro-Gafo Soulémane (6 Tchadénou Faride 76),9 Kloukpo Kokou (19 Bruno Kokou Avotor 83),13 Ouro-Tagba Marouf (2 Ouro-Bodi Harissou 74)-
    18 Akoro Bilali
    Not used:1 Tondoro Cisse Fadle Irénée (GK),22 Madjedje Djalilou,20 Amekoudi Kokouvi Dodzi
    Coach:Kader Coubadja
    BEN:23 Mariano Tchinonvi-
    11 Rachid Moumini (2 Rodrigue Fassinou 88),6 Nabil Yarou,4 Mamoudou Kamarou,3 Rabiou Sankamao-
    15 Imourane Hassan (C),24 Zoulkareni Toukourou (14 60)-
    5 Alidou Tadjou (22 61),20 Béranger Koho (9 Adam Ramzi 78),17 Roland jr Beakou (21 60)-
    7 Bio Odo Chabi
    Coach:Moussa Latoundji

    unknown players nr 14,21 and 22


    november 2

    Abidjan (CIV)
    Benin 1-1 Togo = 1-3
    BEN:Adam Ramzi 89
    TOG:Kokou Kloukpo 4
    Venue:Stade Félix Houphouët-Boigny, Abidjan
    Att:
    Referee:Kouassi Frédéric Francois Biro (CIV)
    Assistant referees:Koabenan Prosper Adiouman (CIV)/Kalilou Bamba (CIV)
    Fourth official: Patrick Tanguy Jean Philippe Vlei (CIV)
    Match commissioner:Moussa Dahani (BFA)
    Referee Assessor: Ali Mohamed Ahmed (SOM)
    Booked:
    BEN:23 Mariano Tchinonvi-
    2 Rodrigue Fassinou,6 Nabil Yarou,4 Mamoudou Kamarou-
    11 Rachid Moumini,19 Zoulkaneri Seibou-
    15 Imourane Hassane (C),8 Patrick Sèdjamè-
    20 Béranger Koho,5 Tadjou Alidou,7 Bio Odo Chabi
    used:3 Rabiou Sankamao,9 Adam Ramzi,21 ??,14 ??
    Coach:Moussa Latoundji
    TOG:16 Mahadiou Sama (c)-
    5 Abdoul-Sabourh Bod,14 Abdoul-Halimou Sama,15 Koffitse Georges Adjessi,21 Roland Hermann K Amouzou (4 Koffi Benjamin Holete 82),3 Koffi Antoine Agbetogon,12 Denis Abalo,6 Faride Tchadenou (8 Soulémane Ouro-Gafo ??),9 Kokou Kloukpo (19 Kokou Bruno Avotor ??),13 Marouf Ouro-Tagba (2 Harissou Ouro-Bodi ??),18 Bilali Akoro (20 Kokouvi Dodzi Amekoudi 82)
    Not used:1 Irénée Tondro Cisse (GK),22 Djalilou Madjedje
    Coach:Kader Coubadja

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