Missing Data

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Could this unknown be Fareed Majeed ? He played internationals in 1997 and 1998. Can't say for sure, but has a little likeness

You actually read my mind lol. I was going to put him, but left as I was still not completely sure and didn't really knew this player. Here is a clearer pic of his face although in his older years I recently submitted to his database, I found it here. They indeed very much look alike, I share ur thoughts and would say that's definitely him. Does anyone have any more opinions on this

1) India vs. Bangladesh 1985-12-25

Bangladesh XI:

Mohamed Mohsin
Ranjit (please change to his full name: Ranjit Saha)
Kaiser Hamid
Mohammad Abu Yusuf
Imtiaz Sultan Johnny
Khurshid Alam Babul
Ashish Bhadra
Badal Roy
Wasim Iqbal
Mahfuzul Mamun Babu
Sheikh Mohammad Aslam
Substitute player: Elias Hossain

2) India vs. Bangladesh 1995-12-27

Bangladesh XI:

Mohammed Ponir
Mamun Joarder
Sohel Reza
Monem Munna
Hassan Al-Mamun (subbed by Mohamed Sohel Al-Masum)
Mohd Arman Mia
Zakir Hossain (subbed by Nurul Manik)
Mohamed Masoud Rana
Rakib Hossain
Shahidul Alam Ranjan (subbed by Imtiaz Ahmed Nakib)
Mizanur Rahman Mizan



3) Bangladesh vs. Sri Lanka 1995-12-25

Players known to have played in the game:
Monem Munna
Rakib Hossain
Imtiaz Ahmed Nakib
Mamun Joarder
Mohd Arman Mia
Mohamed Masoud Rana

Substitutes and starting XI is unknown

4) Bangladesh vs. Nepal 1995-12-23

Bangladesh's scorers were Mamun Joarder (26th minute) & Rakib Hossain (16th minute). Captain Monem Munna also played in the game. Nepal scored in the 51st minute.


5) Maldives vs. Bangladesh 1995-12-21

Only player to have certainly played in this game is Monem Munna. Also the Bangladesh coach during the SAFF Games 1995  was Otto Pfister. The coach Abdul Rahim does not exist.

Source for the 1995 SAFF Games

1) Mostakim Wazed

DOB: 1 March 1965
POB: Rajshahi, Bangladesh
Position: Attacking Midfielder, Striker
Club History: Muktijoddha Sangsad Dhaka (1982-87)
                          Rahamatganj MFS Dhaka (1988-89)
                          Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1989-92)
                          Dhaka Wanderers (1993)
Rahmatganj MFS Dhaka (1994-96)

2) Zumratul Hossain Mithu played for Farashganj Dhaka (1996 to 2005), Rahmatganj MFS (2006), Mohammedan SC Dhaka (2007 to 2009) and Rahmatganj MFS (2010 to 2012)

3) Showkat Ali Selim was born in Dhaka, Bangladesh and played for Abahani KC Dhaka (1980 to 1981), Victoria SC Dhaka (1982 to 1985), Muktijoddha Sangsad Dhaka (1986 to 1989), Abahani KC Dhaka (1989 to 1993) and Wari Club Dhaka (1994 to 1995).

4) Ruhul Amin



Please remove the current picture, I don't know who that even is but it's definitely not Ruhul Amin
DOB: 8 October 1970
POB: Bhola, Bangladesh
Position: Left-back
Club History:
Mirpur Ekadosh (1987-88)
Eskaton Sabuj Sangha (1989-93)
Brothers Union (1994)
Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1995-02)

5) Shahidul Alam Ranjan

Fullname: Khandoker Shahidul Ahmed Ranjan
DOB: 6 January 1972
POB: Tangail, Bangladesh
Position: Left-Winger, Striker
Club career: The Muslim Institute (1988), Rahmatganj MFS (1989-93), Brothers Union (1994), Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1995-98), Abahani Ltd Dhaka (1999) and Rahmatganj MFS (2000).

6) Krishna Hare


Correct Name: Hare Krishna
DOB:??
POB: Comilla, Bangladesh
Position: Left-winger
Club History:
                          Dhanmondi Club (1983-84)
Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1985)
                          BRTC Dhaka (1986-88)
                          Abahani KC Dhaka (1989-92)

7) Masul Ahmed Ali


Correct Name: Ahmed Ali (also remove his full name ''Masul Ahmed Ilias Ali'' since Ahmed Ali is his full name)
DOB: 1967
POB: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Position: Right-winger
Club History: Aganagar (1984)
                         Arambagh KS (1985-86)
                         Muktijoddha Sangsad Dhaka  (1987-89)
Brothers Union (1989-1992)
                         Abahani KC Dhaka (1993-94)

8 ) Zia Ul Huq

Name: Zia Ul Huq Babu
DOB:???
POB: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Position: Left-winger
Club History:
                         Wari Club Dhaka (1982-83)
                         Muktijoddha Sangsad Dhaka (1984-1992)
                         Victoria SC Dhaka (1993-94)

9) Pijush Nandi played as a right-back

Ganesh Thapa

88/89 Rahamatganj (Bangladesh)

1986 Mohammedan Dhaka (Bangladesh)

1985 Mohammedan Dhaka (Bangladesh)

84/85 East Bengal (India)

1983 Dhaka Wanderers (Bangladesh)

1982 Abahani KC (Bangladesh)

1981 Mohammedan Dhaka (Bangladesh)

1980 Well Nepal Airlines (Nepal)

1979 Well Nepal Airlines (Nepal)

1978 Well Nepal Airlines (Nepal)

Thailand vs. Bangladesh 1993-04-18

Bangladesh's missing substitute: Golam Gauss came on for Sayed Rumman Sabbir

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Macedonia v Egypt 1998-09-29

A few changes here for Egypt. Backed up by macedonianfootball and Dr. Tarek Said

Medhat Abdel-Hady and Abdel-Sattar Sabry start instead of Amr Fahim and Hany Ramzy, who don't play.

4 subs for Egypt: Yasser Rayan for Abdel-Sattar Sabry (69th) / Osama Nabih for Mohamed Emara (75th) / 'Bebo' for Hazem Eman (80th) / Mohamed Sabry for Ahmed Hassan (85th).

Iran vs. Pakistan 1986-02-16

Pics of the starting lineup of all three matches at the 1986 Fajr International Tournament. This pic with green shirt is against Poland U21, so discarded. This can be verified by this pic that it was against Poland youth. The rest two matches were against Iran national team (official) and Al Fotuwa SC (unofficial) where the team played with the white kit. So we have the pics of the two remaining matches:

Image source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paki…ehran,_Iran.jpg

Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid…84860991&type=3

Since the match report in national-teams is saying Shahzada Arbab Kasi (second standing from right to left in last pic) was present at the match, likely the last pic is of the match against Iran if he was indeed present or he didn't came as substitute. However, the players present in both two lineups missing in the report are:

Mukhtar Ali, Ejaz Ali, Jamshaid Anwar Rana, Shaukat Mufti, Agha Saeed, Samuel Gill, Fida Ur Rehman

Add: Looks like the matches against Poland U21 and Al Fotuwa SC were held in Azadi Stadium, while the match against Iran was held at Shahid Shiroudi Stadium. The last pic venue looks different compared to the other two pics, so most possibly the last pic is of the match against Iran.

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Jordan vs. Pakistan 1992-08-20

Found this pic from the facebook profile a Pakistani player who made his debut "Mohammad Khaled Khan" (sitting at far left shirt number 6).

So far for the rest of players I can recognise are Mohamed Noman (second standing from left shirt number 10), Zafar Iqbal (fourth standing from left shirt num 4), and Mohammad Tariq Hussain (second sitting from left shirt num 3).

Source: https://www.facebook.com/khaled.khan.39…dfo4KTk9wCaXPcl

Found a clearer version of this lineup (Jordan vs. Pakistan 1992-08-20)

Rest of players I can identify are Naeem Khalid (sitting far right, number 2 shirt) and Muhammad Munir (goalkeeper, uncreated)

Pic for Muhammad Munir

Place of birth: Lahore, Pakistan

Position: Goalkeeper

Played for Pakistan Railways (1984-??) and Wohaib (1992-1993) according to this post

Tahir Agha

Date of birth: 12 December 1970

Place of birth: Quetta, Pakistan

Position: Midfielder

Pic:

Source with his info: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=81…813939281977153

The pic on him is extracted from the following team roster of the national team in 1993, likely during the 1993 SAARC Gold Cup and would be a great resource to complete missing data (name, DOB, position, and pic) of players of the 1990s, but unfortunately it is blurry and havent been able to find a clearer version so far

Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=38…400673717593799

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Iraq v Palestine 2018-12-28

Few more Palestine subs: Oday Dabbagh for Yashir Pinto and Khaled Salem for Mahmoud Wali.

It also mentions Mahdi Kamil Sheltagh playing instead of Mahdi Karim Ajeel. I don't know for sure but considering Mahdi Karim Ajeel retired from club football a year earlier I lean to agree with this.

Source: ESPN

Just going to come back to this as I've noticed an error. Mahdi Karim Ajeel is still mentioned in the substitutions coming off for Bashar Rasan Bonyan. He needs replacing with Mahdi Kamil Sheltagh.

Just to complete the Palestine substitutions as well: Jonathan Cantillana for Sameh Maaraba (53rd), Oday Dabbagh for Yashir Pinto (61st), Khaled Salem for Mahmoud Wadi (74th) and Musab Battat for Tamer Seyam (83rd).

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Yes, we believe transfermarkt here. To mention a great local source here we see Menad confirmed. I think that's the kind of missing data which happens when putting matches online and the uploader just forgets something, as the match wasn't set to "partially missing" either. So, good work of yours Ro83rto to spot that one.

I realise these are mistakes and not missing data, but I just wanted to reply to this post as a thank you for bringing the source to my attention and thus have used said source for my own records, and only noticed a couple that differ from their records and yours:

Algeria v Morocco 1986-03-08

Nasser Bouiche starts here instead of Rabah Madjer and it's Nasser himself, not Nacer that goes off for Hakim Medane. Nacer plays the full match.

Tunisia v Algeria 1987-01-11

Nacer Mekideche plays here instead of Tahar Cherif El-Ouazzani.

Quote from jost69

You actually read my mind lol. I was going to put him, but left as I was still not completely sure and didn't really knew this player. Here is a clearer pic of his face although in his older years I recently submitted to his database, I found it here. They indeed very much look alike, I share ur thoughts and would say that's definitely him. Does anyone have any more opinions on this

An update on this. I found this pic of Sri Lanka vs. Pakistan 2001-05-30. The player sitting at the far right looks exactly like him. In the report, a player named Zaffar Majeed played as a starter and was involved with Karachi Port Trust (KPT) at club level as the previous pic mentioned alongside his name, so maybe him and Fareed Majeed are the same? Would like a double confirmation but looks interesting.

Standing L-R: Gohar Zaman, Unknown, Muhammad Essa, Noman Ibrahim, Unknown, Sarfraz Rasool

Sitting L-R: Adeel Ahmed, Mohammad Arshad, Haroon Yousaf, Muhammad Riaz, Unknown

Unknown players to me mentioned in the starting lineup are Amir Shahzad, Amir Riaz and Zaffar Majeed (could be the one sitting far right)

Some random lineups of Pakistan which I have in my draft since months. I know the context but unfortunately cant seem to determine the exact match. Hopefully this can serve for future reference.

1) 1986 Asian Games, lineup is of that tournament as Mohammed Naveed was captain. The team played four matches all of them with the lineups missing here. For the complete participating squad see this.

Image source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid…84860991&type=3

Standing L-R: Mohammed Naveed, Mukhtar Ali, Jamshaid Anwar Rana, Ghulam Sarwar "Teddy", Arbab Shahzada, Samuel Gill

Sitting L-R: Zafar Iqbal, Fida Ur Rehman, Ejaz Ali, Abdul Samad, Abdul Wahid

2) A lineup in 1999, most possibly at the 1999 South Asian Games judging by the kit, don't know if the team played with same kit at the 1999 SAFF Gold Cup. So far the match against Nepal at the 1999 South Asian Games is covered in a previous post, and the team played with a different white kit, so possibly the lineup could belong to the match against India or Bhutan.

Image source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid…79683879&type=3

Standing L-R: Muhammad Ejaz, Khuda Bakhsh, Muhammad Idrees (coach), Pedro Dias (coach), Najeeb Ullah Najmi (coach), Haroon Yousaf, Gohar Zaman, Sarfraz Rasool

Sitting L-R: Unknown (maybe "Muhammad Shafique" judging by the pic), Malik Sher (uncreated, pic), Babar Mehmood, Muhammad Younis, Unknown (too many similar faces, either Allah Nawaz, Ghulam Murtaza or Muhammad Sajjad Bhatti), Dilshad Ali

Face pics of 1999 SAF Games players can be accessed here.

Mohammad Arshad (num.8) also played at India vs. Pakistan 1999-09-26 as evidenced by this, maybe came as substitute or the lineup pic is not of that match and instead of the match against Bhutan at the same tournament.

Some more pics of India vs. Pakistan 1999-09-26.

Looks like I.M. Vijayan's penalty goal here:

A Zafar Majeed search has conjured up this random video of him on youtube

Whilst not conclusive, I see enough difference in the lips, ears and hairline to side with Zafar and Fareed being two different Majeed's.

Ghulam 'Teddy' Sarwar

In this interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC8ikN1FRR4), he claims "his real year of birth is 1966 but had to fake being of 1962 in his identity card to play football earlier". I am a bit confused on this as usually it is the opposite.

In this post of a roster of Pakistan for a match against a german team in 1983, both him and Sharafat Ali are shown and both definitely look very young and the same age, so I lean towards him being of 1966. In this 2021 post and this 2022 post, the OP wish him birthday on 27 February in both posts each year, so I place his DOB as 27 February 1966.

For Sharafat Ali, looks like there is also some inconsistency. Although his biography state his DOB as 1 June 1966, this post of his birthday wishing is on 6 May, to which Sharafat thanked with his profile. Would be better if someone with access to old databases could double check on this one.

Guess we will never be 100% accurate with the DOBs of Pakistani players when even with the actual players there is loads of contradicting info

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2023 Melbourne Knights (AUS) 26/5

1) Bangladesh vs. Thailand 1983-08-29

Bangladesh XI:

Mohamed Mohsin
Abul Hossain  
Azmat Ali
Mazidul Islam
Imtiaz Sultan Johnny
Khurshid Alam Babul
Ashish Bhadra
Kazi Salahuddin (subbed by Sheikh Mohammad Aslam)
Wasim Iqbal
Samrat Hossain Emily
Ashrafuddin Chunnu

Thailand XI (incomplete):

Chitri
Kingsak
Samop
Samathan
Shomchai
Chairat
Verapong
Niwath
Dharacharta (subbed by Adipong)

Source

The Thai player names were all in Bangla so its hard to find out their full names

2) Bangladesh vs. Nepal 1983-09-05

Bangladeshi XI:

Mohamed Mohsin
Abul Hossain
Azmat Ali
Mazidul Islam
Imtiaz Sultan Johnny (subbed by Rouf Babul)
Ashish Bhadra
Kazi Salahuddin
Sheikh Mohammad Aslam (subbed by Ejaz Ahmed)
Wasim Iqbal
Samrat Hossain Emily
Ashrafuddin Chunnu

Nepal XI:

Gopal Shrestha (subbed by Lok Bahadur Shahi)
Rupak Raj Sharma
Bhakta Rajkarnikar
Suresh Panthi
Ashok KC (subbed by Kiran who's most likely Kiran Rai)
Man Bahadur Malla
Raju Kaji Shakya
Bidur Bista
Yam Bahadur Ghale
Krishna Bahadur Thapa
Ganesh Thapa

Nepal's goal scorers were Krishna Bahadur Thapa & Ganesh Thapa

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3) Player Info:

Name: Ejaz Ahmed
DOB: 1960
Position: Striker
POB: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Club History: Alubazar Crescent Club (1977), Bangladesh Sporting Club (1978 to 1979), The Muslim Institute (1980), Farashganj SC (1981), BRTC Dhaka (1981), Lalbagh SC (1982), Dilkusha SC (1982), Rahmatganj MFS (1983 to 1984), Muktijoddha Sangsad KC (1985), Rahmatganj MFS (1986 to 1987), Agrani Bank Dhaka (1988), Rahmatganh MFS (1989 to 1991)
Source

Name: Abul Hossain
DOB: 2 July 1957
POB: Chandpur, Bangladesh
Height: 1.73m
Position: Right-back
Club History: Azad Sporting Club (1975 to 1978), Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1979 to 1993)
Source

Name: Rouf Babul
Full Name: Abdur Rouf Babul
DOB: 28 May 1963
POB: Gazipur, Bangladesh
Position: Center-back, Left-back
Club History: Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1982), Victoria SC Dhaka (1983), City Club (1984), Brothers Union Dhaka (1985 to 1988), Farashganj SC (1989), Brothers Union (1990 to 1993), Farashganj SC (1994 to 1995)

I wish that I had more detail to give you but all I can really find on the latest CHAN qualifiers are here, which is definitely not ideal - I'm hoping that you (or others) have better sources!

1) Bangladesh vs. Nepal 1983-09-22

Bangladesh XI:

Mohamed Mohsin
Abul Hossain
Azmat Ali
Nazir Ahmed Alok
Swapan Kumar Das
Imtiaz Sultan Johnny
Khurshid Alam Babul
Ashish Bhadra
Wasim Iqbal (subbed by Gaffar)
Elias Hossain (subbed by Kazi Jashimuddin)
Ashrafuddin Chunnu

Source

2) Player info:

Name: Abdul Gaffar
Full name: Mohamed Abdul Gaffar
DOB: 28 November 1957
POB: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Height: 1.70m
Position: Left-winger
Club History: Tejgaon Friends Club (1974), The Muslim Institute (1975 to 1976), Shantinagar Club (1977 to 1979), Mohammedan SC Dhaka (1980 to 1982), Abahani KC Dhaka (1983 to 1985)

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3) The Bangladesh national team head coach during all games in 1983 was Abdur Rahim
Info:
Name: Abdur Rahim
DOB: 1932
POB: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Death: 30 October 2004
Played for the Pakistan national football team in 1955
Position: Left-winger
Club history: Dhaka Wanderers (1948 to 1951), Fire Service (1952), Mohammedan SC Kolkata (1952), East Bengal Club (1953), Dhaka Wanderers (1953 to 1956).

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